Ripheus23 Posted May 19, 2019 Posted May 19, 2019 I can't remember if someone already suggested this but I was wondering, "avatar" seems quasi-technical, at least a placeholder for a future definite name. For now, our definition amounts to "something that might be like a Cognitive Shadow but that forms independent on the death of the entity." I say "might be" since we don't really know specifically whether this is so; rather, our knowledge of the classical meaning of the word "avatar" compares well with what we know of the relationship between Tanavast and the Stormfather, say, so since the Stormfather is "like an avatar of Tanavast" to the extent that he has absorbed Honor's CS, well... Now, all that being said, let's suppose "having an avatar" is a distinct process in the cosmere. It's a Shard-level thing, too. So, let's say Adonalsium's Investiture is "spread out" across the cosmere on some level, like with the Shards later of course. Like Autonomy, later, then, Adonalsium could "reach out" to pockets of its power and awaken them into avatars. I guess if they had some peculiar value, the idea would be that your avatar could survive your death, perhaps. IDK if that would be why Adonalsium would be doing this. Maybe it would be semi-automatic, even. Anyway, Adonalsium's avatars might have been seen as dangerous overall. Maybe people on Yolen only knew of them by inference, on average, like, there weren't many avatars (or any?) of Adonalsium on Yolen, but somehow, from that vantage point, people discovered avatar effects arriving at Yolen as a result of energy waves coming out of deep space, so to speak. Who knows but let's then say the Sixteen learned to anticipate when/where a new avatar would form. Again, no proof, but let's say that assuming a being as an avatar, requires opening a perpendicularity around/in/through that being. So, Adonalsium chooses someone/thing on Yolen, to be an avatar; the Sixteen intervene; the avatar dies, the Sixteen reach through the gate and steal the flow of power, Adonalsium Shatters. In effect, the Vessels are avatars, even. I was even wondering, let's say you Physically die, you become a CS. What if you CS-die? Let's say you become a "Spiritual Aura." So we'll say that Adonalsium tried to send its SA into its avatar, but this was destroyed, broken. This isn't an important detail of the guess overall, though. If avatars can survive their origins' destructions, then Adonalsium's avatars would have survived the Shattering. However, each would correspond to an Investiture chunk assigned to some Vessel or other. Have we seen any entities, or had them referred to, that might be such creatures? I submit the following possibilities: Suppose there's an avatar on Nalthis, and its chunk gets tagged to Ruin. Maybe it's even a dragon, haha. So, a Ruinous Nalthian dragon... and eventually its essence makes its way into you-know-who (maybe the dragon's fire is what is used to smelt the steel!?). Cusicesh. But this is a spren, right? Right! But according to the subconscious beliefs of the Rosharans, Adonalsium would count as a spren. Avatars of a spren could very well be spren. And Cusicesh doesn't seem individuated as a category-counterpart. It's a unique (as far as we know) being. Who knows, maybe it looks at the Origin every day because that corresponded to a portal that it drew Adonalsium's energy through, and when Adonalsium died, it lost that connection. The Three Virgins of Sel. Imagine, if you will, that Adonalsium managed to Invest Sel's moons such that they became quasi-living, like the planet itself would become later. Maybe the Three Virgins are three avatars in the moons? The Evil. One idea: this was an avatar whose Investiture-pocket got assigned to, IDK, either Ambition or Odium, and down the line it attacked the Homeland, yadayadayada. Now, let's suppose, then, the when Autonomy activates an Investiture-pocket of hers somewhere, she doesn't actually choose how the god-like being that manifests locally as a result, plays out. Instead, the avatar is autonomously determined by the locals, in the sense that their Cognitive power makes an imprint on the activated pocket, and converts it into some relevant form (if avatars are spren-dynamical, this goes without saying, I suppose!). As it just so happens, unfortunately (for example), the only major hole in the modern Scadrian religious situation is occupied by the absences of Ruin and Trell, so quasi-worshipers of either of those images cause Autonomy's activated pocket in the Scadrian system, to become molded to a Ruin/Trell-like form, and the thing that results even thinks of itself as Trell (with Ruin's goal of mass extermination, I suppose?). I know that's a lot to try to extrapolate from one idea, but I'm thinking that if Adonalsium did have avatars, then given what we already otherwise know of cosmere/Realmatic dynamics, it seems like it would be possible for a lot of these "high-energy" phenomena to involve this relation. 1
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