ND103 Posted February 9, 2019 Posted February 9, 2019 (edited) Common speculation around the abandonment of Urithiru and the Sibling in general is that the sibling was the spren of the city and it went a-slumbering, the city stopped working, and so the radiants of old abandoned the city. Most of the speculation I've seen about this situation lean towards - find the sibling, bond it, revive it, and instafix Urithiru. What if that's not necessarily the order of events though? What if, and at this point my theory starts, the sibling abandoned Urithiru (and radiants) because the giant fabrial that is the city got corrupted somehow? We've seen that corrupting the spren of the oathgate can make the fabrial do something different. What if introducing some kind of corruption (by modifying a part of the fabrial in some key way) could corrupt the spren? Sibling notices, and before something goes horribly wrong decides screw that, I'm outta here otherwise all radiants gonna be gone. Next thing the radiants know, no sibling and Urithiru isn't working. And they attribute it to the sibling abandoning them, and abandon the tower. One thing that's supporting this is that the new radiants find reshephir in the tower trying to presumably find a way to take it over for team Odium. Maybe that had been the plan all along, to corrupt the city and then take over the city either through the sibling, or after it leaves. but the plan had to be put aside cuz the parsh lost their forms. Of course the important part is what does this mean for team Dalinar? They presumably arrive at the same conclusion as I started with - find sibling-> fix tower. They find the sibling, someone tries to bond it, succeeds cuz at this point the sibling doesn't have too much memory of the past, tries to revive the tower, and BOOM. That could be, imo, an interesting way for the front five books to end at. Our heroes at a loss, needing time to regroup after their losses, ask an ascended Dalinar (and at this point I'm stretching beyond even what I buy) to make a new deal to bind Odium for a bit, and we end with both sides trying to gather their forces for renewed hostilities in the back five. Presumably this would be associated with Venli and some humans and radiants and parsh causing a sizeable loss to Odium, presumably by having a bunch of parsh radiants cuz everyone realises this is possible now? As theories go I've left a lot as an exercise for the readers imagination, but it could be interesting. Even if it doesn't quite go like that, at least we could have someone find the Sibling and try to bond it only for it to go - you idiots, what have you done! Apologies if this has come up before but I was unable to find anything. Edited February 9, 2019 by ND103
I think I am here. he/him Posted February 9, 2019 Posted February 9, 2019 (edited) I like it. Well of Ascension spoilers: Spoiler Like that revelation in WoA where Ruin was freed. Hero thinks they do the right thing all t way up to the end, where the twist happens and actually really bad stuff just happened. Edited February 10, 2019 by I think I am here.
cfphelps he/him Posted February 10, 2019 Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) Could definitely be a fun/interesting twist! 23 hours ago, I think I am here. said: Please use the spoiler tags when posting about Mistborn inside the Stormlight Archive forums. Edited February 10, 2019 by cfphelps
I think I am here. he/him Posted February 10, 2019 Posted February 10, 2019 15 minutes ago, cfphelps said: Could definitely be a fun/interesting twist! Please use the spoiler tags when posting about Mistborn inside the Stormlight Archive forums. Sorry. I’ll change that.
Jace21 he/him Posted February 10, 2019 Posted February 10, 2019 My only issue with this is the Stornfather claims the Sibling was hurt by humans, which shouldn't have happened if the Sibling just upped and left voluntarily.
ND103 Posted February 11, 2019 Author Posted February 11, 2019 15 hours ago, Jace21 said: My only issue with this is the Stornfather claims the Sibling was hurt by humans, which shouldn't have happened if the Sibling just upped and left voluntarily. Well the assumption is it was corrupted in some fashion. Presumably by humans. So it's not entirely inconsistent.
Jace21 he/him Posted February 11, 2019 Posted February 11, 2019 5 hours ago, ND103 said: Well the assumption is it was corrupted in some fashion. Presumably by humans. So it's not entirely inconsistent. You seemed to have been implying it was corrupted by Odium, not humans. I dont think a human can corrupt a Spren and I think if Odium could corrupt Godspren he would have already and we wouldn't have any of them. I think the Sibling having been bonded during the Recreance and wounded by it seems more likely, but thats just theory too.
ND103 Posted February 11, 2019 Author Posted February 11, 2019 Well humans acting on Odium's influence? The logic i was thinking was, if it's possible to corrupt spren that are just part of a fabrial and then change how they behave (like the oathgate spren) then the reverse might be true as well, where you mess with a fabrial by changing its physical construction so as to corrupt the spren. Following that assumption, humans affiliated with Odium could easily have messed around with the tower to corrupt the spren over, at which point it withdrew before calamity struck.
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