megafox Posted January 16, 2018 Posted January 16, 2018 So I was doing some readings on WOBs and I found this one: Quote ShadowSgt [PENDING REVIEW] Taravangian. When he made the Diagram he said it was "his brightest day". Would you say that he was more towards the Cognitive realm or more towards the Spiritual realm? Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW] Spiritual. WOB I thought it was interesting because I would have thought that Taravangian's smart days would be days in which he is closer in alignment with the cognitive realm. I think I have seen that theory before and now it is debunked. We know that beings that can see the future, such as shards and atium burners, often achieve this through connection with the spiritual realm. However, I thought that this connection is the "fortune" that Odium speaks of, and we know from him that Taravangian didn't use Fortune to create the diagram. This must mean that Taravangian uses some other means of prediction. My first thought would be that Taravangian is closer to the Spiritual realm and therefore closer to his perfect intellectual form, like an intelligence gold Ferring. Also, a lot of people seem to think that on smart days Taravangian is closer aligned with one realm and on dumb days he is aligned with another. Could that mean that on his smart days he is closer to the person he truly is? Maybe his Machiavellian tendencies are the real Taravangian and the smart days just emphasize it. Or it could be that on his dumb days he is closer to the cognitive realm and therefore becomes more like how he thinks of himself? That would make sense because a man that thought of himself as truly intelligent likely wouldn't ask for capacity. Not really sure, but I thought it would be a good discussion. 2
Storms! he/him Posted January 16, 2018 Posted January 16, 2018 The prevailing theory is that he Ascended that day. Not to overly self-promote, but click on the post about the Diagram in my signature. There's a good discussion from a lot of different viewpoints about T and the Diagram, if you're interested
Calderis he/him Posted January 16, 2018 Posted January 16, 2018 Odium says that Taravangian didn't have access to the Spiritual Realm or fortune... But Odium is not infallible. If he alignment with the Realms fluctuates based on his intellectual level, then it's entirely possible that on the day of the Diagram he used means we're perfectly aware of, and Odium is just unaware of the full breadth of his gift from The Nightwatcher/Cultivation.
Spoolofwhool Posted January 16, 2018 Posted January 16, 2018 (edited) An issue I have with this WoB is that it appears that the question itself is flawed. The Cognitive Realm is not the realm of intelligence, or intellectual strength, it's the realm of perception. Additionally, the questioner is also operating under the assumption that a realmatic fluctuation in his awareness is occurring, which hasn't been confirmed at all anywhere, and for all we know, it could just be that he's somehow more aware of the spiritual than the cognitive on a normal basis, with the Day of the Diagram being no different in that regard. Ultimately, I don't think there's any real stock in this question, as too many unanswered assumptions are being made by the questioner, which Brandon does not address. Edited January 16, 2018 by Spoolofwhool 2
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