marsoupial they/them Posted October 30, 2016 Posted October 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, JUQ said: I usually don't make fun of typos, but this one was too funny. I doubt if you know him, but Virat Kholi is very famous. http://www.cricbuzz.com/profiles/1413/virat-kohli Oh dear. I've just finished re-reading both Stormlight books and can't find where you got this from. I obviously haven't been paying enough attention. She's Baxil's Mistress.
Spoolofwhool Posted October 30, 2016 Posted October 30, 2016 22 hours ago, cuimhne said: That is a good point, to an extent. I don't think Nale would knowingly allow Szeth to advance Odium's power, but it is possible that Szeth will unknowingly work for Odium. Mistborn: Secret History spoiler: Reveal hidden contents Kelsier has a powerful Connection to Ruin, even though Ruin is seen as the bad guy. Kelsier wants Preservation to win, but almost everything he does helps Ruin instead. 18 hours ago, Savanorn said: Excellent question, I'd answer it but it looks like cuimhne already did... So yeah. Pretty much this. Basically I follow the Corrupted Heralds theory and I think that Nale is serving Odium by his actions if not by his intent. That's fair enough. I can ascribe to that theory. I don't that would make him Odium's Champion though, by any means. Champion, by implication, means proxy. Also, according to Honor, Odium's Champion will likely determine Odium's fate. As such, it wouldn't make sense for Odium to appoint someone who is only helping through actions, while the intent is the complete opposite.
Savanorn he/him Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 9 hours ago, Spoolofwhool said: That's fair enough. I can ascribe to that theory. I don't that would make him Odium's Champion though, by any means. Champion, by implication, means proxy. Also, according to Honor, Odium's Champion will likely determine Odium's fate. As such, it wouldn't make sense for Odium to appoint someone who is only helping through actions, while the intent is the complete opposite. Hmmm. How is the best way to explain this. . . I think that Nale, being corrupted, will likely further lead Szeth down a dark path that might end with him being Odium's champion. In this, I think he will be inadvertently continuing the work that the Parshendi and Taravangian started by using Szeth as the Assassin in White; a path we know has compromised his sanity, possibly drawn Odium's attention and caused him to hate his victims. By the end of this next arc, Szeth might willingly accept Odium's...patronage. He will be, after all, a man who is hated across the world and who will have, possibly, destroyed the very culture whose laws he once valued over all else. Presuming that the death of the Stone Shamans does this. Presuming this. What else is there for a man like that but to give up entirely?* I don't think Nale necessarily plans this or wants this, but could facilitate it nontheless. For all I know, Szeth's next arc might end with him killing Nale and embracing his status as Odium's champion. *notably, this is just a theory. I have many more, there's really hundreds of ways this could go. 1
Spoolofwhool Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 Fair enough. Makes sense. I, personally, don't see it happening, but I'm not very good at analyzing people. My theory abilities lie more towards analyzing set systems.
Kered he/him Posted October 31, 2016 Author Posted October 31, 2016 Like Sav said, this can go a 100 different ways. But I just think that after his fight with Kaladin, that was Szeth's proverbial "rock bottom*(hehe, half pun). When you read his chapters in WoR, there was just a sense of hopelessness and slight insanity. To me, that's a perfect set up for a redemption arc. Maybe he does find himself in Odium's employ, not necessarily champion, but I think if that happens he'd be a double agent.
Savanorn he/him Posted November 2, 2016 Posted November 2, 2016 On Monday, October 31, 2016 at 0:39 PM, Spoolofwhool said: Fair enough. Makes sense. I, personally, don't see it happening, but I'm not very good at analyzing people. My theory abilities lie more towards analyzing set systems. Please don't think I'm discounting your opinion. Your angle is valid. The thing I like about theorycraft is that so long as you don't omit data or get something you tend to have a workable and cool idea. On Monday, October 31, 2016 at 9:26 PM, KereDerek said: Like Sav said, this can go a 100 different ways. But I just think that after his fight with Kaladin, that was Szeth's proverbial "rock bottom*(hehe, half pun). When you read his chapters in WoR, there was just a sense of hopelessness and slight insanity. To me, that's a perfect set up for a redemption arc. Maybe he does find himself in Odium's employ, not necessarily champion, but I think if that happens he'd be a double agent. Right on. Totally possible and I wouldn't be surprised at all if it happened thia way.
Spoolofwhool Posted November 2, 2016 Posted November 2, 2016 1 hour ago, Savanorn said: Please don't think I'm discounting your opinion. Your angle is valid. The thing I like about theorycraft is that so long as you don't omit data or get something you tend to have a workable and cool idea. Don't worry, I don't think so.
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