Wolven he/him Posted July 9, 2015 Posted July 9, 2015 If the Mists start Snapping people because the Well is refilling, why does it start at the edges of the empire and work its way in? Perhaps because The Final Empire is located at one of the world's poles, and the Mists naturally started in the middle?
Oudeis he/him Posted July 10, 2015 Author Posted July 10, 2015 Perhaps the mists condense into the Well. We know that Shardpools are "Spiritual humidity". Perhaps all the condensing Investiture is turned into mist elsewhere on the planet, but fills the Well around Luthadel. Thus, we get more mist from farther away and less mist closer in. The major problem with this of course is that the Deepness only starts after the Well if filled, but I can see some possible responses to that. I mean... I'm confused by your phrasing here. I guess it would help if I knew; what specifically are you referring to when you say The Deepness? The Mists staying longer and coming sooner? The Snapping of people? Is it not The Deepness until the Mists stay all day long? Perhaps because The Final Empire is located at one of the world's poles, and the Mists naturally started in the middle? Why would the Mists start in the middle? Why would they start far away from the Well? In fact, the rest of the world is uninhabitable because the ash doesn't fall as strongly, and the world has turned into a desert. The world was pushed close to the sun so that it would burn away the mists. So, we know hot sun will, in fact, burn away mist. This makes it even stranger that the mists would be strongest at the edges of the empire, where the ash is weakest and therefore the sun is strongest, yet be so weak so close to the Well which, coincidentally, is the place most protected from the sun.
Moogle Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 I mean... I'm confused by your phrasing here. I guess it would help if I knew; what specifically are you referring to when you say The Deepness? The Mists staying longer and coming sooner? The Snapping of people? Is it not The Deepness until the Mists stay all day long? The Deepness referring to the strengthening of the mists. Imagine there being so much Investiture in the air, invisible. The Well serves to suck this up, like a dehumidifer, leaving the area around Luthadel relatively bereft of background Investiture. Meanwhile, the other areas of the world still have plenty of Investiture floating around. When Ruin tells the mists to do their thing, they drain this Investiture from the Spiritual or whatever in order to strengthen themselves and appear in the daylight. Only, the Well has drained a lot of it, so the mists can't do as ordered and so we get very weak daymists in an area around the well.
Oudeis he/him Posted July 10, 2015 Author Posted July 10, 2015 (edited) The Deepness referring to the strengthening of the mists. The major problem with this of course is that the Deepness only starts after the Well if filled, but I can see some possible responses to that. Then my confusion is, per WoB, the Well isn't "full" until the end of Well of Ascension, but the mists are already starting to strengthen many months before that, all at the edges of the empire. So, the Deepness comes before the Well is full, by a very, very long margin. As to your other point... so you think the Well is sucking up the power of the mists? A viable enough theory, I suppose. I will ponder it. Do you have anything to support this model? To talk about another Well... Vin has to remove her earring to use the Well of Ascension. Yet, atium can be used allomantically. One might expect pure Ruin would be incompatible with a mechanism of Preservation. Her earring itself carried a hemalurgic charge. Yet allomantic metals don't carry charges, themselves, at all. What, if any, restrictions might be on who can use Ruin's Shardpool? Would it reject you if you had the spiritweb of an allomancer? What if you were an allomancers, but had no reserves? What if you had reserves, but weren't burning? What if you were burning metals? EDIT: So... this makes some sense, actually. Well, some. There's still the issue of the fact that the sun did effectively burn away mists, so why they'd be so strong elsewhere is odd. But basically, you're saying that for a thousand years, the Well is sucking up all the Preservation around the planet to fill itself with Millenial Power. However, in the last few years, as it starts to fill, the suction weakens. Like when the water pressure in my hose slows to a trickle when the spigot is being turned off. So what the Well needs can be gotten from nearby, so it stops drawing power from the further away places, until it's only weakening the mists right around itself... I do wonder though. By that logic, once Vin used the Well, it should have started sucking up all power before. Ruin having the spare energy to devote to the Mists and strengthen them so much they are still more powerful than they ever were even when the Well was totally full feels like a stretch to me. Also, we know the Well DID get totally full, so you'd think by that point, there would be no suction, and the Mists should have been blanketing the land 24/7. Edited July 10, 2015 by Oudeis
Moogle Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 Then my confusion is, per WoB, the Well isn't "full" until the end of Well of Ascension, but the mists are already starting to strengthen many months before that, all at the edges of the empire. So, the Deepness comes before the Well is full, by a very, very long margin. My apologies, I messed up my timeline and assumed the Well was full earlier. It does make the theory seem more likely, though. The mists are increasing in strength everywhere, but the Well sucks up the Investiture that would normally help the mists. I am afraid I can't think of anything in particular supporting it. It was just a simple model that I threw out of there to see if it would trigger any better theories. As noted, it has major problems.
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