Oudeis he/him Posted November 23, 2014 Author Posted November 23, 2014 A single example makes it approximately one quantum more likely to be that way. By this logic, if I'd only read the Mistborn books, I'd actually have three examples of types of magic, and they all need metal, so at that point I would consider it three times as likely that all Investiture requires metal, as to believe that stormlight penetrates a chasmfiend body for no other reason than whether or not Rosharans think the inside of a body is considered "outside" or not. And I would have been wrong. You still might be right. I'm just saying, there's hardly a mountain of evidence. Also, if the answer does boil down to something as simple and lazy as "whatever people believe will happen, happens," I for one will be disappointed. And underwhelmed, and a little bored.
Surgebound Rainspren he/him Posted November 23, 2014 Posted November 23, 2014 I believe that great shells use the stormlight their gemhearts to support their massive size. stormlight gives them the strength needed to move and stops their bones from breaking under the weight of their bodies.
Shaggai Posted November 23, 2014 Posted November 23, 2014 A single example makes it approximately one quantum more likely to be that way. By this logic, if I'd only read the Mistborn books, I'd actually have three examples of types of magic, and they all need metal, so at that point I would consider it three times as likely that all Investiture requires metal, as to believe that stormlight penetrates a chasmfiend body for no other reason than whether or not Rosharans think the inside of a body is considered "outside" or not. And I would have been wrong. You still might be right. I'm just saying, there's hardly a mountain of evidence. Also, if the answer does boil down to something as simple and lazy as "whatever people believe will happen, happens," I for one will be disappointed. And underwhelmed, and a little bored. It's not "whatever people believe will happen, happens". It's "Investiture is affected by certain types of Cognitive things, and we've seen it affected by inside/outside before, so that's probably one thing that can affect Investiture in general".
Oudeis he/him Posted November 23, 2014 Author Posted November 23, 2014 I concur, as I initially stated, that we know that sometimes a cognitive phenomenon can influence Investiture. But writing the entire issue of how the Stormlight infuses a gemstone inside a chasmfiend, when it won't do the same for spheres in a far thinner and less sturdy wooden structure, off as "because cognitive" is not only boring, it assumes that because we know cognitive has a say, it must be the one and only reason. It may or may not prove to be a factor, but I for one would find it far more interesting if we eventually learn that there's something physiological in a chasmfiend (as I believe someone alluded to) which taps into the stormlight at joints in the carapace and channels it all into the gemheart. I hasten to suggest the opposite. People in Scadrial do almost nothing to try to keep out mist, and yet it gets the message and stays out. On Roshar, people have to design every aspect of their lives around trying to keep the Highstorms out of their homes, and it still leaks into even the King's Palace on the Shattered Plains. If people's capacity to simply decide "this is indoors, Highstorm stay out," they would have to take far fewer precautions, and the precautions they do take would be much, much more effective. Clearly, Highstorms are less susceptible to a cognitive influence than the mists are.
Shaggai Posted November 23, 2014 Posted November 23, 2014 I concur, as I initially stated, that we know that sometimes a cognitive phenomenon can influence Investiture. But writing the entire issue of how the Stormlight infuses a gemstone inside a chasmfiend, when it won't do the same for spheres in a far thinner and less sturdy wooden structure, off as "because cognitive" is not only boring, it assumes that because we know cognitive has a say, it must be the one and only reason. It may or may not prove to be a factor, but I for one would find it far more interesting if we eventually learn that there's something physiological in a chasmfiend (as I believe someone alluded to) which taps into the stormlight at joints in the carapace and channels it all into the gemheart. I hasten to suggest the opposite. People in Scadrial do almost nothing to try to keep out mist, and yet it gets the message and stays out. On Roshar, people have to design every aspect of their lives around trying to keep the Highstorms out of their homes, and it still leaks into even the King's Palace on the Shattered Plains. If people's capacity to simply decide "this is indoors, Highstorm stay out," they would have to take far fewer precautions, and the precautions they do take would be much, much more effective. Clearly, Highstorms are less susceptible to a cognitive influence than the mists are. Highstorms are not the Investiture. Stormlight is. The highstorms are vehicles for the Stormlight, whereas the mists are the literal Investiture.
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