More elements in ATLA (Avatar; the last Airbender)

[Belandrius Ohhmar He/Him]

now there are many clues that could show more elements in the world maybe hidden in different places. on the planet. The planet is around 1/8th the size of Earth but It has similar if not the same gravity of Earth, now if you said well maybe they just have stronger gravity, then that would cause the planet to be larger. I know that my list of bending types is bad so I could use some more ideas for what to use for the 7 other theorized sections.  the next show is called Seven Havens. Seven, seven other possible sections.

Spoiler

my list:

Ones we know from ATLA and TLoK:

Firebending

Waterbending

Earthbending

Airbending

 

Another group may include:

Lifebending

Deathbending

Soundbending

Timebending

 

Another:

Lightbending

Darkbending

Psychicbending

Dreambending

 

The next:

Gravity

Poison

Celestial

Physical

 

Another:

Spacebending

Formbending

Chaosbending

Peacebending

 

Another:

Spiritbending

Kineticbending

Forcebending

Radiationbending

 

Another:

Astralbending

Emotionbending

Luckbending

Voidbending

 

The final:

Persuasionbending

Momentumbending

Atomicbending

Centerbending

 

[-ACE- he/him]

On 10/21/2025 at 12:30 PM, Belandrius Ohhmar said:

then that would cause the planet to be larger

maybe it just has a really dense core.

Also, I think most of them would be adapted forms of bending, because there is no hint of anything related to anything except for the basic four. I guess its possible, but if you are approaching it the same way as Brandon Sanderson, its incredibly small chance of it. Really cool idea tho!

Edit: I just remembered about the sandbenders and how Toph couldn't bend the sand like they could. Also bloodbending. (except that Katara could do that on the right night). So basically what i'm saying is that there are probably many more elements, they're just subsects of basic ones.

Edited October 25, 2025 by -ACE-

[Kansas Stormcursed he/him]

Hear me out:

All bending is actually elemental bending

Waterbenders are just capable of bending Hydrogen and Oxygen

Firebenders can bend Oxygen and Nitrogen and other stuff

Airbenders just bend elements in gaseous phases

Earthbenders bend metals and other earth elements

Etc.

[Myst He/Him]

9 minutes ago, Kansas Stormcursed said:

Hear me out:

All bending is actually elemental bending

Waterbenders are just capable of bending Hydrogen and Oxygen

Firebenders can bend Oxygen and Nitrogen and other stuff

Airbenders just bend elements in gaseous phases

Earthbenders bend metals and other earth elements

Etc.

This is really interesting, except for that waterbending and firebending would just be the same. Since water is just hydrogen and oxygen, and fire can be made with liquid hydrogen and oxygen, and then you just control the fire by pushing all the oxygen in the direction you want it to spread. But like, I like it

[Kansas Stormcursed he/him]

4 minutes ago, IHadAThought said:

This is really interesting, except for that waterbending and firebending would just be the same. Since water is just hydrogen and oxygen, and fire can be made with liquid hydrogen and oxygen, and then you just control the fire by pushing all the oxygen in the direction you want it to spread. But like, I like it

Perhaps the difference is the state. Firebending involves them in the gaseous phase, to fuel flame, while waterbending affects the two bound together

[Myst He/Him]

Just now, Kansas Stormcursed said:

Perhaps the difference is the state. Firebending involves them in the gaseous phase, to fuel flame, while waterbending affects the two bound together

It’d have to be liquid and gaseous for firebending since they create the spark themselves. The bonds is an interesting theory though, depending on what bond it’s based on, there could be a variety of different things. If it’s dependent on hydrogen bonds, that’s very different from covalent and ionic bonds

[-ACE- he/him]

1 hour ago, Kansas Stormcursed said:

Hear me out:

All bending is actually elemental bending

Waterbenders are just capable of bending Hydrogen and Oxygen

Firebenders can bend Oxygen and Nitrogen and other stuff

Airbenders just bend elements in gaseous phases

Earthbenders bend metals and other earth elements

Etc.

hahaha. That would be crazy. the earth benders would be op, cuz of all the many elements in the earth.

1 hour ago, IHadAThought said:

It’d have to be liquid and gaseous for firebending since they create the spark themselves. The bonds is an interesting theory though, depending on what bond it’s based on, there could be a variety of different things. If it’s dependent on hydrogen bonds, that’s very different from covalent and ionic bonds

NoT iN tHE MoViE

[Kansas Stormcursed he/him]

Just now, -ACE- said:

hahaha. That would be crazy. the earth benders would be op, cuz of all the many elements in the earth.

True, but I feel like it would be limited to like those that make earth earth. No hydrogen for them, 'cause that's extraneous

[Myst He/Him]

1 minute ago, -ACE- said:

NoT iN tHE MoViE

Do you mean that they don’t create the spark to start the fire? I’m 90% sure they do.

[Kansas Stormcursed he/him]

5 minutes ago, -ACE- said:

NoT iN tHE MoViE

SACRILEGE

[-ACE- he/him]

yea. they do in the TV show.

Have you watched the movie? 

Spoiler

they have to use existing flames in the movie. Its so awful. I hate that movie. (personal opinion, i don't hate you if you like it)

 

[Myst He/Him]

1 minute ago, -ACE- said:

yea. they do in the TV show.

Have you watched the movie? 

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they have to use existing flames in the movie. Its so awful. I hate that movie. (personal opinion, i don't hate you if you like it)

 

I haven’t watched the movie, just the TV show

[-ACE- he/him]

Just now, IHadAThought said:

I haven’t watched the movie, just the TV show

keep it that way.

[Kansas Stormcursed he/him]

Just now, IHadAThought said:

I haven’t watched the movie, just the TV show

Don't watch it. I've only seen bits and even those are awful

[-ACE- he/him]

17 minutes ago, Kansas Stormcursed said:

Don't watch it. I've only seen bits and even those are awful

I saw the whole thing. Its EVIL

You know the episode where they trap the earthbenders on a metal island?

 

23 minutes ago, Kansas Stormcursed said:

True, but I feel like it would be limited to like those that make earth earth. No hydrogen for them, 'cause that's extraneous

good point. This is actually fairly plausible now that I think about it. I mean, scientifically, (if we ignore the fact that it's magic in the first place, and just focus on controlling it atomically) the very thing that makes water 'water' and air 'air' are the individual molecules combined to make a bigger whole of the same material. so that would be possible. And it matches with everything. In the bloodbending episode, they need the full moon to bloodbend, because it's a lot harder to, and the water percentage in blood is a lot less then in water. Likewise with metal, but reversed. Iron is naturally a more pure type of stone (iron ore) and it is a lot harder to bend then normal stone, possibly because iron only contains trace amounts of whatever it is that earthbenders bend.

Nice thoughts @Kansas Stormcursed

 

16 minutes ago, -ACE- said:

You know the episode where they trap the earthbenders on a metal island?

yea, well, in the mOViE they trapped them in a freaking forest. With tons of stone and dirt.

 

On 10/21/2025 at 12:30 PM, Belandrius Ohhmar said:

now there are many clues that could show more elements in the world maybe hidden in different places. on the planet. The planet is around 1/8th the size of Earth but It has similar if not the same gravity of Earth, now if you said well maybe they just have stronger gravity, then that would cause the planet to be larger. I know that my list of bending types is bad so I could use some more ideas for what to use for the 7 other theorized sections.  the next show is called Seven Havens. Seven, seven other possible sections.

  Reveal hidden contents

my list:

Ones we know from ATLA and TLoK:

Firebending

Waterbending

Earthbending

Airbending

 

Another group may include:

Lifebending

Deathbending

Soundbending

Timebending

 

Another:

Lightbending

Darkbending

Psychicbending

Dreambending

 

The next:

Gravity

Poison

Celestial

Physical

 

Another:

Spacebending

Formbending

Chaosbending

Peacebending

 

Another:

Spiritbending

Kineticbending

Forcebending

Radiationbending

 

Another:

Astralbending

Emotionbending

Luckbending

Voidbending

 

The final:

Persuasionbending

Momentumbending

Atomicbending

Centerbending

 

Honestly tho, despite me shutting this down earlier (sorry for that) this is a really cool idea. I think it would make a great fan-fic. AtomicBending sounds the most fun 

Edited October 25, 2025 by -ACE-

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

On 10/21/2025 at 11:30 AM, Belandrius Ohhmar said:

now there are many clues that could show more elements in the world maybe hidden in different places. on the planet. The planet is around 1/8th the size of Earth but It has similar if not the same gravity of Earth, now if you said well maybe they just have stronger gravity, then that would cause the planet to be larger. I know that my list of bending types is bad so I could use some more ideas for what to use for the 7 other theorized sections.  the next show is called Seven Havens. Seven, seven other possible sections.

  Reveal hidden contents

my list:

Ones we know from ATLA and TLoK:

Firebending

Waterbending

Earthbending

Airbending

 

Another group may include:

Lifebending

Deathbending

Soundbending

Timebending

 

Another:

Lightbending

Darkbending

Psychicbending

Dreambending

 

The next:

Gravity

Poison

Celestial

Physical

 

Another:

Spacebending

Formbending

Chaosbending

Peacebending

 

Another:

Spiritbending

Kineticbending

Forcebending

Radiationbending

 

Another:

Astralbending

Emotionbending

Luckbending

Voidbending

 

The final:

Persuasionbending

Momentumbending

Atomicbending

Centerbending

 

On 10/24/2025 at 5:29 PM, -ACE- said:

maybe it just has a really dense core.

Also, I think most of them would be adapted forms of bending, because there is no hint of anything related to anything except for the basic four. I guess its possible, but if you are approaching it the same way as Brandon Sanderson, its incredibly small chance of it. Really cool idea tho!

Edit: I just remembered about the sandbenders and how Toph couldn't bend the sand like they could. Also bloodbending. (except that Katara could do that on the right night). So basically what i'm saying is that there are probably many more elements, they're just subsects of basic ones.

i have a spreadsheet

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y2aJ3LAAuCr6cBPWDRF2K_QfuRGhr7CIggQ-dxEkE5M/edit?gid=1212811325#gid=1212811325

On 10/24/2025 at 8:48 PM, Kansas Stormcursed said:

Hear me out:

All bending is actually elemental bending

Waterbenders are just capable of bending Hydrogen and Oxygen

Firebenders can bend Oxygen and Nitrogen and other stuff

Airbenders just bend elements in gaseous phases

Earthbenders bend metals and other earth elements

Etc.

I actually have a tv show idea roughly based around that, but now is not the right time.

On 10/24/2025 at 10:27 PM, -ACE- said:

hahaha. That would be crazy. the earth benders would be op, cuz of all the many elements in the earth.

NoT iN tHE MoViE

On 10/24/2025 at 10:32 PM, -ACE- said:

yea. they do in the TV show.

Have you watched the movie? 

  Reveal hidden contents

they have to use existing flames in the movie. Its so awful. I hate that movie. (personal opinion, i don't hate you if you like it)

 

The movie was terrible

[-ACE- he/him]

On 10/26/2025 at 3:34 PM, CoderDrag0n8 said:

i have a spreadsheet

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y2aJ3LAAuCr6cBPWDRF2K_QfuRGhr7CIggQ-dxEkE5M/edit?gid=1212811325#gid=1212811325

Thats cool. 

Whats immortality bending? (earth)

 

Spoiler

I havent watched korra, so i don't know anything in there. also, i probably never will, so spoil away (if you want i guess)

 

Edited November 4, 2025 by -ACE-

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

1 hour ago, -ACE- said:

Thats cool. 

Whats immortality bending? (earth)

 

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I havent watched korra, so i don't know anything in there. also, i probably never will, so spoil away (if you want i guess)

 

It isn't actually in Korra, it is in a prequel novel about Avatar Kyoshi, and is never actually given a name.

In the book... Spoilers:

Spoiler

There is an earthbender who deconstructed his body and rebuilt it slightly younger, giving him the key to eternal life. That is why Kyoshi's reign was longer than the normal human lifespan, and the longest reign of an Avatar in all of history. Her reign ended in battle.

Yes, i am an obsessive nerd.

[-ACE- he/him]

huh. neat

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

1 minute ago, -ACE- said:

huh. neat

:3

yeah

[-ACE- he/him]

nerd 

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

Just now, -ACE- said:

nerd 

 I am nerd

[Kansas Stormcursed he/him]

20 hours ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

It isn't actually in Korra, it is in a prequel novel about Avatar Kyoshi, and is never actually given a name.

In the book... Spoilers:

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There is an earthbender who deconstructed his body and rebuilt it slightly younger, giving him the key to eternal life. That is why Kyoshi's reign was longer than the normal human lifespan, and the longest reign of an Avatar in all of history. Her reign ended in battle.

Yes, i am an obsessive nerd.

Assuming you're talking about the book I think

I love that book

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

Just now, Kansas Stormcursed said:

Assuming you're talking about the book I think

I love that book

I love all of ATLA

[Kansas Stormcursed he/him]

Just now, CoderDrag0n8 said:

I love all of ATLA

Thoughts on the third show?