@Furamirionind, have you also considered that Fifth answered that question the way he did because Joe isn't actually a player?   In other news, the people that joined the Araris wagon late are just a bit more likely to be village unless bard is evil, as there would be little reason for the elims to commit to a mislynch in the closing stages of the cycle otherwise. Its hardly a guarantee of their alignment, but its something to start with.