Illwei Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 1 minute ago, The Windrunner Supreme said: I am confuzzled Okay, What makes you think straw is an elim? Besides the fact that i want to kill one of you and you dont want it to be you?
The Windrunner Supreme he/him Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Illwei said: Okay, What makes you think straw is an elim? Besides the fact that i want to kill one of you and you dont want it to be you? I just read through what straw posted for day #3 and although he was the first to vote on me, before changing to elk, he really does seem like village. I dont know who elim could be. Whoever they are, they are doing good at keeping hidden
Illwei Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 1 hour ago, The Windrunner Supreme said: I was just joking around with the cow thing. I think that straw may be elim 4 minutes ago, The Windrunner Supreme said: he really does seem like village. I dont know who elim could be. So first, Last cycle, you tunneled on Matrim while expressing interest in my death, then when asked why matrim you gave the cow bit, which didn't even phase Matrim. You then gave your actual reasoning a bit later and then ultimately switched to me because Elk suggested it. This cycle you responded to my post about why I think you are an Elim saying "I think Straw may be an Elim." , and then when I asked why you said "He really does seem like Village, I don't know who elim could be." Anyone else want to throw out some alternate targets? or some reads?
Mat he/him Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, Illwei said: So first, Last cycle, you tunneled on Matrim while expressing interest in my death, then when asked why matrim you gave the cow bit, which didn't even phase Matrim. You then gave your actual reasoning a bit later and then ultimately switched to me because Elk suggested it. This cycle you responded to my post about why I think you are an Elim saying "I think Straw may be an Elim." , and then when I asked why you said "He really does seem like Village, I don't know who elim could be." Like I want to think Windrunner is good but that exists so
The Windrunner Supreme he/him Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, Illwei said: So first, Last cycle, you tunneled on Matrim while expressing interest in my death, then when asked why matrim you gave the cow bit, which didn't even phase Matrim. You then gave your actual reasoning a bit later and then ultimately switched to me because Elk suggested it. This cycle you responded to my post about why I think you are an Elim saying "I think Straw may be an Elim." , and then when I asked why you said "He really does seem like Village, I don't know who elim could be." Anyone else want to throw out some alternate targets? or some reads? This is only my first game. I have no idea what im doing, but im just going for whoever seems like they are elim to me
Illwei Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, The Windrunner Supreme said: This is only my first game. I have no idea what im doing, but im just going for whoever seems like they are elim to me Which is exactly why I think Straw could also be an Elim. EDIT: @Ashbringer Oh, thought you were writing a post Edited October 9, 2020 by Illwei
Ashbringer he/him Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 I'm just thoroughly confused, and keep trying to see if there's a notification from the Reckoners RP yet. I can probably type something up though. Give me a sec.
The Windrunner Supreme he/him Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ashbringer said: I'm just thoroughly confused, and keep trying to see if there's a notification from the Reckoners RP yet. I can probably type something up though. Give me a sec.
Ashbringer he/him Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 Ha. Matrim: Seems most likely that the Elims tried to push him as the counter-lynch to Elkanah, which means I read him even more Village. No reason for the Elims to bus a teammate at this point, much less two at once, although the lack of a kill (a heal would have shown up as "attacked but survived," right?) means the Elims are perhaps not very coordinated. Windrunner: Seems to have completely flipped their suspicion on Matrim, without really explaining why. I assume it's the above, but still a Slight Elim read here. As far as I can tell, Windrunner's just going full steam at whoever he suspects most in the moment. (And that gif hurts my eyes because I'm sleep deprived... but I'll go on a limb and say that's not an expert Elim tactic to make my reads less accurate. ) Straw: No real change from this - still reading as Village. Asking the Healer to claim is interesting, though. If this lack of kill wasn't a Nightmaw whiff, then any Healer claim would be in very great danger. Illwei: Big pusher of Elim!Elk. Village read. Not much else to say. I'm somewhat suspicious of the inactives being Elims, but that could backfire really quickly.
Experience he/him Posted October 9, 2020 Author Posted October 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ashbringer said: "attacked but survived," right? Correct.
Illwei Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ashbringer said: Big pusher of Elim!Elk. Village read Haha, wouldnt it be hilarious if i flipped elim? Haha. Surprised ash isnt a bit more wary of me.
Straw he/him Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 12 hours ago, Ashbringer said: Straw: No real change from this - still reading as Village. Asking the Healer to claim is interesting, though. If this lack of kill wasn't a Nightmaw whiff, then any Healer claim would be in very great danger. TBH I completely forgot that that was a possibility. It does now look like a Nightmaw attack on a Hidden person.
Illwei Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Straw said: TBH I completely forgot that that was a possibility. It does now look like a Nightmaw attack on a Hidden person On 10/7/2020 at 9:01 PM, Experience said: The traitors though, forgot to bring their death in the night, This seems not like that to me. Unless the write up means nothing. I'm expecting some sort of Analysis post from you today, Straw. Edited October 9, 2020 by Illwei
Straw he/him Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Illwei said: This seems not like that to me. Unless the write up means nothing. I'm expecting some sort of Analysis post from you today, Straw. I usually just skip write-ups. I’d consider it odd for a Writeup to have game-related information that wasn’t already revealed. I’ll try to put up some analysis later.
Illwei Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 @Matrim's Dice can you explain your vote on Turtle?
Mat he/him Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 @Illwei can do: Elk read her as Null, even though she had stated as many opinions as others he gave reads to, (here's the post) Quote Is also voting for Matrim, but hasn't said much. Please come out of your shell? I super believe in you. You can help us solve this game. Null Which sorta reads as filler to me. I dunno though She voted for me over Elk. Not a super strong piece of evidence but it's there. Few things about this post: On 10/8/2020 at 6:26 AM, eltruT said: Wait, did the slims not submit a kill? Or was Elk the one doing the kills? Would that even matter? I just read through the thread and yes, Kings_way and Mint could be Elim, though that would be rather boring. Anyways, school and waking up early for sports have really made me tired and I don't have much time for this but I'm going to say stuff again. Also, @Illwei I pronounce your name Ill- way. With the I sound being somewhat between eel and ill. This definitely makes Matrim less suspicious in my eyes, though he still could be elim. And uhh... Illwei can you explain your vote on gears a little? I really want to think about this, and I sort of also think Gears could be eliminated. (Unless that was a poke vote.) Oh and no I don't have any PM's with Elk. First paragraph restating what had already been asked and said, could be trying to appear helpful. Second paragraph is similar with revisiting a random discussion. I'm not sure how I could still be an elim in this situation. There is nothing I'd want to gain from that bus. If I had wanted a different candidate I would have chosen a villager. Also, they're randomly agreeing with your Gears vote. I don't remember why they voted one me. Though I don't remember why anyone voted on me.
Experience he/him Posted October 9, 2020 Author Posted October 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Illwei said: This seems not like that to me. Unless the write up means nothing. I'm expecting some sort of Analysis post from you today, Straw. Don't count on the writeup actually having correct information, though if someone had been attacked and survived, I would have said so.
Illwei Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 Turtle (1): Matrim Windrunner(1): Illwei @Frozen Mint @Kings_way
Mat he/him Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Illwei said: Turtle (1): Matrim Windrunner(1): Illwei @Frozen Mint @Kings_way Illwei: Thinks unprompted vote counts are suspicious Also Illwei: Posts unprompted vote count Spoiler I don't think you're suspicious for that, in case you're wondering... Edited October 9, 2020 by Matrim's Dice 1
Illwei Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said: Also Illwei: Posts unprompted vote count What can I say, no one is talking, Rollover is like 5 hours away. Also I do everything that I mark suspicious all the time, so my analysis is always flawed :P. Edited October 9, 2020 by Illwei
Experience he/him Posted October 9, 2020 Author Posted October 9, 2020 There's less than 5 hours left in the turn. Remember to submit your actions!
Illwei Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 2) First of the Bone: @Ashbringer 4) 2nd of the Twilight: @Kings_way ) Fourth of the Dark: @Gears 7) Philico: @Matrim's Dice 11) 295864685th of the midnight: @The Windrunner Supreme 12) First of the Clouds: @turtle 13) First of the Light: @Straw 14) Mint: @Frozen Mint 15) First of the Person: @CadCom Hey, If anyone can get on and we can talk about voting, that would be fun :)) I am the only one (oh yeah and matrim too but-) who has actually placed a vote, so, uh. would be nice. if someone. got on. and did something.
Gears Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 For some inexplicable reason, I suspect Light. To aid in my analysis, I have decided to investigate each and every one of their statements. Spoiler 1. Thinks four traitors. (Again, is there an advantage to the general populace thinking there are more traitors then there actually are?) Thinks Aviars other than Spy should abstain due to chance of death. (Could be traitor ploy to make sure kills go through and traitor Aviars remain intact, could be smart trapper decision since traitors want as many trapper deaths as possible. Trappers should lynch anyone the Spy scans as traitor. (Traitor can claim spy, bus a fellow traitor, then proceed to mislynch a few trappers. Doesn't work now since the Spy died already. Could also be smart trapper. Notably, Elkanah agreed with this opinion). 2. Has strange feeling about Pi of the Book (who flipped trapper). Removes new people from vote pool. Votes Pi. (Can be construed either way. D1 is always confusing.) 3. List was chopped. 4. Voting Pi for lack of better target. Pi wasn't gone that long. (Again, could be trapper, could be traitor.) 5. Kill not those who lie in slumber. (Sleeping people provide a convenient mask for traitors, but it is also rude to kill someone before they have a chance to offer a rebuttal.) 6. No point in killing Lord Silberfarben, plus hasn't been here for a while, might be replaced. When were Dark and PI removed as suspects? (Has Light expressed an unwillingness to kill sleeping people on the first day before?) 7. Information is more important than chatter. Always target elims. 8. Discuss more D1, more to analyse. Willing to abandon Pi in favor of Bone. (Again, I cannot determine if these statements are alignment indicative. ) 9. Asks for clarifying statement from Philico. 10. Tells newbie some things. Don't vote out most talkative trappers for being talkative, will get rid of active trapper. (Note: Light = active trapper.) 11. Take look =/= vote on. No point staying when no one else agrees. Reading primary elim read. 12. Reads. Trapper: Winthrop, Elkanah (who is a confirmed traitor), Philico (who I currently trust). Traitor: Bone, Dark, Midnight, Sky (who is a confirmed trapper). (The traitor reads don't appear to have much substance.) 13. Responds to complaint. 14. Typically avoids those who slumber. 15. Definitely should lynch someone. Reads remain the same. (Trying for mislynches?) 16. When die, investigate. 17. Bit busy, trusts Philico and Winthrop. (I can't determine whether this is traitorous or trapper. If Philico had been slaughtered and flipped trapper, Light would have appeared trapper. 18. Would prefer Elkanah over Philico. (This is the part where the traitor suspicions get confused. Light could have expressed suspicion of Philico and avoided getting Elkanah lynched.) 19. Questions absolute certainty. 20. Refutes points concerning traitor Philico. 21. Votes Midnight for odd certainty. 22. Too close for comfort. Votes Elkanah (And the traitor suspicions die a slow and painful death.) 23. Confused about Midnight. Conclusion: My suspicion of Light was ill-founded and quite possibly wrong, though the errant thought of Philico-Elkanah-Light team does cross my mind. Out of the two candidates, I do not think Midnight's traitor allies would have allowed them to declare utter certainty in an outcome when they know it will be wrong, so I shall vote Cloud (turtle)
The Windrunner Supreme he/him Posted October 10, 2020 Posted October 10, 2020 I am not going to be able to post later I think that either turtle or gears are elim because they did not vote on elk, but I honestly have no idea
Mat he/him Posted October 10, 2020 Posted October 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, The Windrunner Supreme said: I think that either turtle or gears are elim because they did not vote on elk, but I honestly have no idea Well, you didn't vote Elk either...
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