Djerf

While it is frustrating being left out because of where one live or whatever reason, most of us surly must be getting used to it. I mean, I don't ever plan om owning a signed copy of any literature let alone going to a signing unless I've got the time, money and inclination to cross at least a few borders. In the light of this I still have to say that the staff took the right approach to the steelhunt in trying to preserve the spirit of the hunt because this kind of thing is something Brandon enjoys doing but the moment it stops being fun he will stop doing it and all of us will suffer for it! Consider also that firstRainbowRose let us know early on that arrangements were made to provide the information to those of us that for whatever reason couldn't get it by our self. Now information about the scavengerhunt itself could probably have been handled in a better way, by slowly building anticipation for it and by giving regular updates or whatever. But just as Brandon isn't our b*tch neither are anyone on the 17thShard staff who all do what they do because they enjoy it! All in all I think that you have done a great job whit this and while there's room for improvements nothing is perfect! =)

I first heard of him on Dragonmount after he'd been selected to finish WoT during a flame war between " He's awesome you should read his books!" and " He sucks, he'll ruin the whole thing!" and I thought that if AMoL turns out ok I'll read his other stuff! Some time later I were suposed to studie for a test I had the next morning and so i was browsing the web trying to find a book i had read years before when I stumbled upon Warbreaker which I finished just in time to catch the buss for school. Warbreaker was awesome and I just had to have more from this guy so I went and bought Elantris and Mistborn. It's was some time after this while checking for updates on AMoL that the coin fell down and I made the conection between AMoL Sanderson and Warbreaker Sanderson.

I just want to point out that seasonal depression can have surprisingly little to do with the actual seasons, as studies have shown that Scandinavian people that live and have lived in a tropical setting for a long time (even born and raised there) often suffers from winter depression during the Scandinavian winter, a time when there's no local weather patterns that can be attributed as the cause. futher, as I remeber it, there where also a noticable conection between this kind of deppression and ones Scandinavian decent ( How often, how recent and to what percentage).( note that I read this quite a few years ago and it is therefore possible that I'm misremembering this part) Now this shows that there's more then cold, dark and ever present slush to our moodiness even IRL and if you and magic to the mix, well then anything is possible! However I would be carefull to point fingers at the stormlight for two reasons, first is the meta-reason which is that it would cheepen Kalladin as a character to have one of his major flaws, indeed much of his arc in WoK was to fight this flaw, to be magical in origin unless it really is important and super awesome (see Vin in Mistborn). the seccond reason is based on the system of magic it self, you see as I understand it one are not born to be a Windrunner but rather one acts like a Windrunner to atract the correct spren which then proceeds to give you the spiritual part necessary to surgebind. While it's unlikely that Kalladin suffers from depressions because of his Windrunnersness it is possible that the splintering of Honor left an abundance of uncontrolled energy for which the Highstorms function as a pressure valve. Said released energy then saturates Roshar which the Rosharians sDNA mutates to take advantage of in some way, with the drawback that some extra sensitive individuals suffers from withdrawal symptoms during periods of low concentration. this could actually cause conflict later on if surgebinders can draw power from other sources then the storms and thus lessening the the uncontrolled buildup of energy, or in the eventuality that they re-forge Honor (mass depression as a result of the ultimate victory over Evil).

""I will place the rune here" he said in an accented voice. "If she leaves this room for any reason or if she alters the rune or the door, I will know. My pets will come for her"" -TES page 42-43 I read this as meaning that she can indeed forge the door.

The thing is that Denth has lived a loong time, probably under some very diffrent personas and looks. The very fact that it is a conscious effort that enables returned to change how they look makes it plausible that denth just lost control when he died because he didn't "know" how he should look. Blushweaver on the other hand "knew" how she should look and the lack of a identity crisis meant that she didn't undergo the transformation. The reason that only denths hair changes would indicate that hair is more "fluid" then the rest of the body and indeed hair do change colour naturally, it grows rapidly and we change the form of our hair often. Another point to consider is that the royals can change the colour of their hair with only a small part of a divine breath this would indicate that the hair is more fluid then the rest of the body. However this is writen on my phone and might be even less understandable then usually, is soo just dissregard this

Well, i found it in a bookstore last weekend I Sweden and it was awesome!

A few pages earlier there were a discussion on why the shardblade cut the spirit before cutting the physical, in respond to this. 1. Everything exists on all three realms at the same time. 2. Things can have a diffrent pressence in diffrent realms. 3. Just as matter is energy the spiritual aspect is energy to. 4. You store the shardblade in the spiritual realm. 5. shardblade has a finite amount of energy. 6. The shardblade changes when cutting living things ( I belivie it gets fussed on the edge when. Conclusion: The major part of the "energy" in a shardblade changes realm depending uppon what it's cutting, and for some reason it were more important to harm the spirit of the enemies the shardblades were designed to fight. Bonus1 The blades given to the heralds might just have been given aloot more "energy" or "mass" in order to fight even worse enemies, the unmade? Bonus2 Where do the energy to create come from? I find it most likely the the blades is made from a Shards spiritual energy, isn't it said in vorinism the the heralds gave the blades to humanity? And thus a shardblade is a shard of a Shard or more likely, three seperate Shards.

Somewhere here I’ve read a quote from Brandon which starts off saying that there ten core cosmere worlds and then answers the question of how much choice the shards had on what planet they are on by saying a lot but he also seems to indicate that they could just choose any world in cosmere. If anyone can find it, it might help shed some light on this discussion. What I wanted to say in my previous post is this: If you could describe your whole DNA and that of others with a single word and every other human also had this ability, wouldn’t it be logical to use that word as your name? As to how the inhabitants know the name of planets they didn’t name, some cases are harder then others. On Roshar for example the almighty could’ve just told them when he migrated with them there or during any period of time that he still was in contact with them and knew they where/were going there. The same goes for Nalthis, their shard could’ve told them as she has a regular flow of information going on. On other planets like Sel the name could they could have learnt it through studying the various aspects of the world if the idea I proposed hold true.

A named planet could be a planet which allows interaction with shards and the name is more of a description of the nature of this interaction. Then the name Scadrial is found not given, and if it’s unique it makes sense to name it after it’s properties, kind of like how you would call the only blue object in the world blue and not Joseph.

Either you’re wrong and a honorspren is a honorspren and a truthspren is a truthspren which seems like a logical way to look at it. Or we have the windspren for the windrunners and stonespren for the stonewardens ect ect and they are called honorspren as a group because they are of Honor, then we should have at least cultivationspren and odiumspren and probably the different combination sprens like odium-cultivating-spren and honorfull-odium-cultivating-spren with their own subset of ten sprens and that brings the total number of spren up to 60 if I count it right. 60 types of spren gives us 60 surges (or 6 ways to access the same 10 surges) and 60 orders of surgebinders (who might or might not have the same surges and combinations thereof) out of which only ten is in the KR. To me this feels like a stretch so I think I’m going to go with the honorspren=honorspren and truthspren =/= honorspren. Urithiru could have been built during the years between living through a desolation and writing the book parallel with the ordering of surgebinders. “Radiant / of birthplace / the announcer comes / to come announce / the birthplace of Radiants.” This could be read as “Radiant, the announcer of the birthplace comes to announce the birthplace of the Radiants” and it could mean that Nohadon gave his vision of the KR to world at the place where they should build their city. In order to build it where no one can reach it they would have to have had surgebinders and it was most likely built by the KR with soulcasting or a similar method in order to be built by the hand of no man ( the KR are more then ordinary men and soulcasting does not involve much handy work) “Though many wished Urithiru to be built in Alethela, it was obvious that it could not be. And so it was that we asked for it to be placed westward, in the place nearest to Honor.” “I walked from Abamabar to Urithiru.” “My family traveled to Urithiru via the direct method, and had been awaiting me for weeks when I arrived” This indicates that someone built it (and given my previous statement that surgebinders had to be involved it makes sense for it to be built after a effort to organize them had been undertaken) and that a majority of those asked wanted it to be built in a specific kingdom ( this could have 3 reasons, 1 “I’d like him as a neighbor” 2 “ my new family needs a new home but I’d prefer if I had my mom and dad across the street and besides, it’s close to work” and 3 “ put those crazy bastards where they belong”) and that their wishes could have an effect on the placement, it also tells us that the locations was known before Nohadon died and that a direct method of transportation to Urithiru was available. Looking back at the ketek the announcer would have to be either a KR or Nohadon himself, radiant in the effect of a guiding light. The “many wished” and “we asked” might be different groups as in “they wanted us to fight for them but we knew that it could not be so we moved away” and that would mean that the KR asked someone to place Urithiru somewhere else and the only someone that comes to mind is Nohadon. So looking at the map knowing it’s west of Alethela somewhere that’s inaccessible by mundane means and thinking that Urithiru was something that people wanted to have close I think that it’s located at the meeting of the kingdoms Valhav, Selatales and Makadakam in the mountain range. It’s in the middle of the whole continent, not in any specific kingdom, could be high up in the mountains, it’s in reasonable distance to a lot of city’s any of which might have been named Abamabar, and if you look at the map it looks like the whole continent rotates counter-clockwise around this point and that makes as good a argument about where “ the place closest to Honor” lies.

The devils on the front lines could be other knights radiants, or if you like “The second most baseless Parshendi theory” it could be a confusion between parshmen and parshendi who both look alike to humans and the KR coming to understand the difference between the two which caused the Recreanse. If the first one is true it would mean that two or more nations had access to KR and fought each other, this could further enhance the feeling of betrayal towards the KR, other KR being the devils and all that. If the second it could help explain Jashnas findings which I think is incorrect.

I like it, a lot! This is how they look for me now, but with antennae.

Mistborn:  Preservation used most of it’s cognitive aspect to create the prison for Ruin (if I don’t misremember).  We’ve seen solid Preservation in the form of Lerasium.  We’ve seen the gaseous form of Ruin in WoA. From here  This implies to me that there’s no need for a Shard for life (indeed sentience) to evolve.  The use of allomancy proved critical in Preservations master plan to betray Ruin and therefore it makes sense that she gave humans this ability. Elantris:  I get the feeling that the Seons are more like Nightblood, artificial constructs which gained sentience thru a large Investiture ( the Aons in the middle of them supports this).  The reason Seons are so closely aligned with their shard could be that they have a disproportional amount of Devotion in them compared to their presence in their other two realms, they are insubstantial ( I think) and their sentience is a byproduct of the spiritual Investment.  We see what happens when a part of the cognitive aspect a Shard have is split of from the rest, it goes dumb (mistspirit) and the Seons seems to be just as thinking as any human. Stormlight:  Ale/death/rot and pain spren are all splinters of Honor?  Tanavast was very much alive when the KR was around so Honor couldn’t have splintered into 10 primary facets. In conclusion: 1. Humans on Scadrial = 1part Ruin + (1 +X)part Preservation, Yes. Humans have part of Leras mind, No. 2. No, a Shard can not gain sentience by weakening it’s cognitive self, however by splitting away part of it’s spiritual power ( it’s body) that part can gain a separated conscious and thus the total amount of sentience associated with that Shard will be more then before ( eat Lerasium and get a bit Preservation). 3. Yes, relative to it’s two other aspects and any preexisting spiritual self ( if the part of the shard is much less then the combined amount of other stuff it will not be noticeable, if it’s much more it will be defining). If multiple intents are in the picture they will should be treated like vector addition and then be factored in as shardic influence. 4. Perhaps, no evidence either way. 5. No, the death of a shardholder is the death of the Shards cognitive aspect. In mistborn 3 shardsholders died in quick succession and it didn’t change their sentience neither did Atium gain any sentience when Ati died nor did the mists when Leras and Vin died. However, the Seons might still be splinters.

Well if the tears really are the body of Endowment I figure a mistborn could burn it just like they can burn Atium. Atium don’t act like a key to Preservation but rather it’s a pure form of Ruin. The only reason I could see for it not to work is that while any mistborn has some Ruin in him, he won’t have any Endowment in him and thus might not recognize it as power.

@1 I would believe that a telegraph is more or less digital in that that it isn’t analog but instead works on impulses. As a simple digital system it wouldn’t be harmed directly by a time bubble since the changes upon entering nullifies the changes upon exiting the bubble. But the refraction from entering and exiting the bubble could (would) cause interference that might or might not be noticeable in a telegraph but would wreak havoc in a more complex system. The different speeds of time would cause the signal to be more or less delayed which again don’t matter much to the telegraph but would be a pain if you’re playing online. Some kind of capacitance effect might occur Now if the angle of entry and exit is different it could cause some interesting trouble due to the way an electrical charge moves thru a conductor not to mention what would happen if the transfer was parallel. The thing that would affect the telegraph directly is the act of creating and uncreating (do we get the term used for this?) the bubble.

This is electricity for light bulbs to a few very rich houses, which is not hard to do. Telegraphy, while not hard to do, is not easier then power distribution, it only requires less power. Communication is also more vulnerable to pulsers and sliders. Also, for telegraphy someone would have to had thought up a binary code and I can imagine that no one had up until AoL (post apocalyptic, every one speaks the same langue, no wars and the fact that they don’t have a very large cultural and individual pool to draw ideas from).

I know that if one acts a specific way one will attract a spren and form the nahel bond ( Roshar snapping 101) and I don’t know if I can accept that this is a spiritual thing. What I was trying to say is this. Every one can feel hate, love, pain, hunger and we can also feel the joy of building something and the need to protect, this are things that exists without the need for a higher brain function. As you’ve said acting on these things so often that it becomes a defining trait gives the magic, concentrating on these things could then be the focus. Look at Kaladin, he protected Tien and then he started to protect and lead random kids in the army and then a lot of slaves but when we see Kaladin for the first time in the book, he has stopped doing this but he still feels the need to. And thus the thing that drives Kaladin to protect is separated from Kaladin protecting. I don’t feel that I’m making myself very clear, I never do which is the reason I tend to just lurk on this kind of forums. =)

Yes, but a physical Focus is easy to understand since the physical world is the world we inhabit ourselves. Cognitive focuses are also quite easy to understand but less so then the physical. The question that’s interesting for this discussion is where does the cognitive end and the spiritual start? My best guess is that the spiritual is not a moral act or decision but rather the thing that lets people know right from wrong. You don’t need to think to know that killing an innocent is bad, you just know it, and perhaps feelings count too, you hate or love without thought often contrary to it. But to make a moral decision you have to think. By my definition however, a spiritual thing is passive or at least not subject to any kind of mental command and that makes for a bad focus, which probably means that I’m wrong. This makes the next few SA books much more interesting because if the focus on Roshar is spiritual then we can start to understand the last 1/3 of Cosmere. P.S it just hit me that perhaps it’s really simple. We do have two defining attributes for each order of knights and they have two surges, what if whatever things that makes Kaladin to lead and protect is the focus?

First of all, I have a very hard time to see any kind of spiritual Foci at all, I do believe there are such things but I just don't understand how that would work. And to my knowledge Roshars Foci could be a spiritual one. Secondly, while writing a post (which got lost due to power failure!) in another thread i found this quote. From this I’d like to ad another criteria for a Foci, the thing that decides what is a magic system and what is a power is the way the user interacts whit his/her Focus ( stab them, wear them and eat them ( Mistborn ) draw them, tattoo them and dance them ( Elantris)

Wellcome Wrim! For spelling, don't look my way, I'm Swedish to and I've got dyslexia. Since you got here with a wish to write I'd suggest reading Brandons work he wrote before way of kings. He annoted those ( he wrote his thougths on every chapter) you can find it on his site, and warbreaker still got ( I think ) several diffrent drafts.

In the beginning of "death wears white" page 738 That whole interlude has alot to say about figthing whith Stormlight and there might be a upper limit to how much Stormlight Szeth can hold at any one time.

Mine is my last name and is not pronuaced anything like it's spelled, it's a old soldier name like hare or fox and as such it's spelled in old swedish Djerf=Järv not that it makes any sense to anyone here^^ well lets try, Järv : J like in jail, ä like eh in ehm maybe? r like in hare and v like in have. best i can do

Well here I am hoping for some of the stuff that’s hard to get where I live. Awesome of you to ship internationally! =)

1.) Think of it like a scale with one shard on either side, breaking one or both of the shards to splinters won’t affect the total sum of neither power nor intent. I think. 2.) Brandon said somewhere that it’s possible to fuel any magic anywhere with more or less effort, so I think that the Elantrian magic would work. However, the distance between Elantris and Roshar would mean that it would be quite weak.

Well it makes sense to me. I think that the difference (Sea, Nexus, Expanse) is the form of the focus on that world. On Scadrial we have the molecular pattern of metals being the focus which is physical. (Bolded by me) I would think Sel’s focus is physical ( the SHAPE of the aon decides) Nalthis I think is cognitive mostly due to this Thread. Roshar’s focus is still anyones guess but it could be spiritual So I think: Expanse of density = Scadrial Nexus of imagination = Nalthis Since we miss one Expanse I’m hoping it fits with Sel. As to why the map looks like Roshar. It’s a map of Roshar in shadesmar with portals or whatever leading to the other worlds, if you do a map of a house you don’t also show the neighbors houses outside the doors, you shows the doors and might write where they lead.