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He didn't say they weren't Heralds. He confirmed they were after Gavilar asked. I think he did lie (especially telling him spren can't lie when we have liespren) I thought it was worth bringing up, does he just have different perspective. And I too noticed when he was saying Gavilar was close to the words and far from them that it was clearly not "strength before weakness..." he was being led towards. But he also wasn't aiming to be Radiant. He wanted to be a Herald. Likely very different words. As far as faker, I have a hard time believing Ishar to be behind it, because I don't know that he could mimic Gavilar being able to see the endless storms in his face. The description just sounded so much like a piece of a shard. And if it had been Odium, it would've likely been red eyes in the storms. It IS possible that he saw both the stormfaker and Stormfather in the day before and after his meetings, but I feel like it's a lot for us to believe that he wouldn't catch on to two different beings. They'd have contradicted each other at some point by then and even if Gavilar didn't notice the Stormfather would notice Gav referencing conversations they never had.

Just starting a SA reread explicitly to examine the Stormfather, but reread the prologue just to prep. At the start of the chapter this exchange takes place.

So we know BAM is instrumental inwhy deadeyes were created during the recreance and will be important to their possible restoration. During the trial, Maya revealed that the spren chose to break the oaths. Enlightened spren have to choose to be enlightened. Do we think BAM can "enlighten" deadeyes and maybe that's the path Adolin and Maya are headed towards? Side thought: People theorize that Adolin may become an edgedancer but what if he bonded the Nightwatcher (cultivation's bondspren) or BAM as a bondspren? Not much evidence for them, but interesting thoughts that popped in my head while thinking of Adolin's journey.

Not to mention they were never branded with slave marks for their crime. They'd probably be overlooked.

It almost certainly is the most powerful. It's just the most restrictive. I'd also guess it takes the most time to perform so it'd be slower than other magics like Allomancy or Surgebinding when being used in combat.

Sorry. I wasn't trying to say there wasn't action going on there. I just meant that from certain points of view it wasn't clear there was an East to West narrative. I'd categorize RoW as a Urithiru centered book (purely just my perspective). I just meant that if it were a conscious decision to write East to West, I thought it'd be more objectively centered in locations that move us in that direction. I like the theory. Especially as Treamayne noted about following the climaxes. I just think it's more coincidental than on purpose.

A one-armed Herdazian walks out into one of his fields to see that a harvest of lavis has gone bad. He says, "it's a good thing I'm not a one-farmed Herdazian."

I'd reckon it's a coincidence. Because it doesn't actually seem that clear to me. I'd say we went from Plains, to Urithiru, to Kolinar, back to Urithiru, on to Shinovar. I think if it were intentional that it'd be much more clear cut on the progression. I think it's mostly just due to our protagonists being Alethi based and we are slowly getting more exposure to the rest of the world.

I think it could, but I don't think it's predicting a single moment for Kaladin. I think it is about the position he reaches. That of the leader. The Watcher at the Rim. I think it's an encouraging death rattle about Kaladin after the predicted loss/draw of the contest of champions and the coming of the Night of Sorrows.

I actually think it isn't implying anything magical. It's just about him leading people along. Playing music, but not.

Because it says playing a tune that no man can hear, I feel like it's more in line with Wit's teaching than the tones. Because technically, humans can hear the tones if played on a tuning fork or sung and if someone were playing them, then they wouldn't be unheard. I'm in the same boat when it comes to thinking how SA5 ends with a perpetual Weeping. (just connected to term Weeping to the death rattle about "his own tears" gonna have to go do some more research) It makes the idea of someone watching in the night a comforting thought instead of ominous.

I think, on the subject of Wit's frenzy of powers, it's completely on purpose. Investiture requires Intent so I don't think he could've accidentally done all of that.

Thanks. First theory post. Thought I had the spoiler covered.

I was rereading the death rattles and I came across this one. “He watches! The black piper in the night. He holds us in his palm... playing a tune that no man can hear! ” —Observed circa Tanat 1172. Subject was Cenn, a member of Kaladin's squad in Brightlord Meridas Amaram's army.[29] This is not a reference to Hoid.[30] I'm not sure if anybody has put the theory out there, but I think the black piper is Kaladin. Points of support: 1. The flute Wit gave him is a very dark wood and may be labeled as black under poetic license as death rattles are known to take. 2. He was at the time holding Cenn as he was dying. 3. According to a sample chapter of SA5 Wit tells him I don't think the first two are particularly strong arguments, but I do think the portion about playing a tune no man can hear applies very well and that the other two just help fill out the death rattle. So tell me what you think? Do you agree? Disagree? If you agree, do you think this is just a normal reference to him or is it playing into the theory of him possibly picking up the Shard of Honor in the future?

We have been told only Splinters live on Braize, but the Heralds are Cognitive Shadows and would probably fall under that description. I think they would physically be on Braize between desolations.

While I'm not sure I'm on board, one point I've not seen mentioned is that in the deathrattles we have someone seeing Cryptics. Were they there for the victim or somebody else like Taravangian? No telling, but they could reasonably be after people in positions of power.

Chapter 7 of Oathbringer is "A Watcher at the Rim" singular.

Hey, long time sanderfan, just joined 17th to talk cosmere theories. As someone who believes in immortal souls, glad I have a habit of reading the terms of service.