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  1. Arsteel
    You're right, it's probably just that Bondsmiths are flat out more powerful than other orders. Good point about how different orders use the same surge differently, that would explain the "spiritual adhesion".
  2. Arsteel
    This is plausible, yes. Good point. I think however even if Windrunners pass this gate/train enough, their Spiritual Adhesion would never be as powerful as that of a Bondsmith, or we would've heard of it by now. The Highstorm I can understand, but I believe that Bridge four's familiarity is just boring old poetry.
  3. Arsteel
    Yes, but Conection manipulation isn't one of the ten Surges. If it were, either the Stonewards or the Windrunners would have access to it too, as each of the aforementioned orders share a Surge with the Bondsmiths. This is the only reason I am implying that it is the resonance.
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    -emphasis mine- Ok, but were does the Connection ability cone from in the first place if not from the resonance? I've been treating the power of Connection manipulation as the Bondsmith resonance itself, as it doesn't seem to have it's origin in either Surge. So how, as you say, would it be present without resonance?
  5. Arsteel
    Yes, I agree with all of this. It makes more sense to think of it from Ishar's perspective as he organized/planned the Surges with Honors help. I had partly forgotten that Ishar was so involved and therefore had assumed that the Surges would have been created as equally powerful (seems like a thing Honor would do, with oaths and fairness and honor and binding rules and the like). With Ishar back in the picture, I can understand the power balance of each Surge/Resonance being less important as compared to the abilities being under control.
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    I know that the Honorblades predate Spren Nahel bonds, I just wondered why, in imitating the Bondsmith Honorblade, a Godspren was necessary for the bond instead of some other spren. Your reasoning makes sense, especially with the flavours of Investiture. However this still doesn't explain why the Bondsmith resonance ability is blatantly and objectively so much more powerful than those of the other Orders. Any ideas? Maybe because Bondsmithing also predates the Heralds and the Radiants and is just an adaption of this previous ability by Honor?
  7. Arsteel
    True, but his Honorblade may be stronger in some way than the others, because otherwise I don't see how a Godspren is needed for other Bondsmiths to imitate the Honorblade's power.
  8. Arsteel
    Thank you, this is very helpful. Then the Bondsmith resonance is the ability to use not only Physical but also Spiritual Adhesion, I guess, as otherwise the Windrunners would also have the Connection ability, seeing as they also have Adhesion. This makes sense, except that the Bondsmith resonance seems much more powerful than those of the other orders. So maybe it isn't just the resinance that grants the Spiritual Adhesion, but a mix of that and the bond with a Godspren?
  9. Arsteel
    So, the Order of Bondsmiths have access to the Surges Tension (which they share with the Stonewards) and Adhesion (shared with the Windrunners. And yet, they have a unique ability to manipulate Connection which no other order possesses. It does not seem to have its source in either of the two aforementioned Bondsmith Surges, as neither of the other Orders which have those Surges have this extra ability. It is a common theme in some cosmere magic systems that two parts together create not just the sum of the two parts but an additional effect, as Kriss mentions in her essay on Compounding. However, this additional effect wouldn't yet seem to be present in any other Radiant order, and so I doubt this theory as well. It would however make sense if this extra power is granted by the fact that the three Bondsmith spren are exceptionally powerful, so it could be assumed that this additional ability was granted through them. It makes sense the the additional power is that of Connection: although said power is generally unrelated to the three greater spren (I believe, but there may be logic I didn't think of for this), Connection is certainly of the Bondsmiths. What are your opinions on this reasoning? If you agree with it, then how do you think the Stormfather, the Nightwatcher and the Sibling are able to grant this ability? How is the Nightwatcher, being only of Cultivation, able to grant this kind of bond/ability to a Knight Radiant? (We know because of Lift that Cultivation can force her way into Radiant bonds, but it seems she only started this recently, so how could the Nightwatcher bond a Bondsmith?) If you disagree, then where do you think this Connection ability comes from?
  10. Arsteel
    Thanks, I'd forgotten about Shardblade wounds. We know they supposedly damage the Spiritual, but I'm confused as to how the Spiritual aspect can really change, because of how the Spiritual realm is just unlimited Investiture without space or time. Then again, we know next to nothing about the Spiritual aspect or how things work in the Spiritual realm.
  11. Arsteel
    Firstly, can the Spiritual aspect be damaged? Isn't it only Investiture? Even if it can be changed, then wouldn't your being just accept that changed version as the new blueprint, and healing of the Physical would be directed accordingly? I think that if the Spiritual is the blueprint, then the other aspects might not be able recognize any "damage" done to it, unless your Perception in the Cognitive Realm of your Spiritual aspect has a good enough idea of what your Spiritual aspect is "meant" to be like, in which case the cognitive might assume control of any healing.
  12. Arsteel
    Interesting idea! We know Perpendicularities can be moved, as Honor's Perpendicularty is known to move unpredictably.
  13. Arsteel
    Ooooh i really like this! Great idea and I mean, who isn't sceptical of Cultivation at this point?
  14. Arsteel
    I see, thanks all!
  15. Arsteel
    Can somebody remind me how Sazed was able to pick up Ruin again? I don't remember his personality or actions having much connection to Ruin, and usually your personality has to be related to a Shard's Intent before you can pick it up, so how could he take both Preservation and Ruin? He certainly seemed to embody Preservation as a Keeper.
  16. Arsteel
    I don't believe it is Moelach, as he is not thought to be intelligent and therefore cannot "manipulate" events, instead just randomly passing and doling out death rattles as he does so. The lovecraftian reference to "holds us in his palm" is interesting, but Moelach does not know or control the information in his Death Rattles, instead it they are just a natural passive effect of Moelach's passing.
  17. Arsteel
    Exactly
  18. Arsteel
    True, true and frequencies and tones play a key role on Roschar.
  19. Arsteel
    That's a good idea. As we've also seen with the prophecy of the Hero of Ages, gender is often incorrect, sometimes to purposefully mislead.
  20. Arsteel
    I've scoured the Coppermind and searched the forums, and I've found nothing, NOTHING, about the black piper, except a confirmation that he isn't Hoid. Who is he? There are things pointing towards that he might be another Unmade, for example that his name is very similiar to that of the Black Fisher, or that the position and role of the words "black piper" in the Death Rattle is very similiar to that of Yelig-nar, Sja-anat and the Black Fisher in their respective Rattles. However, I believe all the Unmade have been accounted for already and I doubt it is just an alternate name for Dai-gonarthis (the Black Fisher), as they seem too dissimiliar and we have no reason to believe that Dai-gonarthis is particularly intelligent (as the black piper would seem to be). He could also be another God spren. Or a Dragon, or someone else influential on Yolish. My entirely unsupported pet theory so far is that the black piper is an avatar of Autonomy. I know we have no proof for anything here, but what do you think? Who is, in your opinion, the black piper, what are his plans and what is the tune he plays? (He may well be entirely unimportant, but I feel he's more than meets the eye)
  21. Arsteel
    True, but might severing his Connection remove some of his emotionality and weaken his bond to Odium?
  22. Arsteel
    I don't see why you disagree, as this is exactly what I meant. I think you could well be right about the champion and that Taravodium is more likely to choose someone Dalinar knows and who will have an additional effect on him.
  23. Arsteel
    I could imagine the Everstorm also working for the Heralds (although I also think their seperate mechanic still works), but I think Odium would be guarding the entrance to it in the Cognitive Realm. Also have I missed something? I thought they were still on Roschar (Physical or Cognitive).
  24. Arsteel
    Good point. I think I've heard the barrier storm around Braize in the cognitive realm might be his perpendicularity. If so, the Everstorm might be a piece of that and the representation of his Investiture on Roschar. I'm pretty sure the Everstorm is his Perpendicularity, especially because I think the Voidspren/Fused come through to the Physical Realm through it.
  25. Arsteel
    I think this is a very important point. I don't think that any Shard alone can truly be "good" or "fit to rule humans", as any single Shardic Intent will cause harm when taken to extremes without being balanced. I think the Shards that broke the original agreement and made Dishardic planets made the right decision, as this way a sort of balance could be achieved. For example, Honour on his own would be to strict a ruler, but him and Cultivation help each other improve. My point is that we sometimes think Shard's Intents themselves are worse or better and they are in the short term, but I think in the end a human society cannot progress with only a single Shard. And this is why i think Autonomy will be our downfall.
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