Koloss17

So here’s the question: since this is about emotional manipulation through use of Allomancy, is it the intelligence or emotional capacity of the being that defines whether or not it affects them?

Well, without getting into the whole emotional capacity of animals and do they have souls debate, I will point out that cats have near-human sapience, with the only real difference being that we were trained from birth to severely expand our capacity for understanding of each other and the outside world.

Clotho, Spiritual Realm Clotho, witnessing such an inhuman monster, did what any sensible person would do: she screamed. She knew little about her true self, but she was no fighter. The creature reached for her, but she squirmed away, bounding over the fallen doorway, turning the corner, searching for the girl to get her out of here. Turning the corner, she nearly ran into the older her. How did she get here? With a kindly face, she said “This is not your past.” The woman held up a hand, and the world faded. As everything went black, Clotho heard the tortured screams of a girl desperately trying to escape her fate. Clotho closed her eyes, shuddering. “Brightness, you need to get out of the way.” Slowly opening her eyes, and shielding them from the sun, Clotho glanced at the speaker. The man was a worker, by the looks of it. He had hazel eyes, and work-worn hands. He was carrying what appeared to be a bundle of clothes, each dress having intricate details and made of colorful fabric. “Sorry, sorry!” Clotho moved out of the way, stepping back out of the road. looking around, she saw a landscape she could never have imagined. Arid land, almost prairie-like, had it not been for the lack of any grass. Instead, small buds poked out of the ground sporadically. There were gigantic creatures roaming this landscape, with hard shells and plated claws. Somehow, despite their fearsome appearance, the looked…docile. In the distance, she saw a man, quickly approaching what appeared to be her caravan of servants and soldiers. This was the life she must have been used to, if on a different planet. Within a few minutes, the man arrived the now stationary procession. ”who is the woman known as lady Clotho?” He boomed, atop his strangely large horse. “I have a message from her master”. There was a murmuring throughout the group, until one man pointed in her direction. Clotho wished that she could wilt into the ground and hide, but she couldn’t. She had to play an act, which was something that she should be used to by now. However, without her shadows, she felt…useless. ”I am here” she said, with less confidence than she would have liked. “What have you brought me?” “Iyatil sends their regards. You nearly had him fooled, had you made your dealings with the Shin better concealed.” Getting down from his horse, the man approached her. ”You had everything you needed. Why did you betray our trust?” Clotho stuttered. “I-I can Explain-“ The man shook his head gravely. “Unfortunately, you won’t have to.” Suddenly, a sharp pain erupted from her chest. She looked down, and saw a gigantic sword protruding from her chest. It was easily six feet in length, but she didn’t see the man holding it before. The pain grew, and her vision began to blur. He pulled the sword out of her chest, taking it out as of her as if her body didn’t exist. As she crumpled to the ground, chaos erupted. People fleeing, soldiers drawing their swords. Clotho’s vision went dark. “Neither is this your past” Clotho heard whispered into her ear.

I’ll fix it, I’ll fix it. I posted it riiiight before I went to sleep for the day. talk about a mippick…

Harmony, I didn’t make a post today. Well, here ya go. Random Twinborn Combo Day 26: A-Pewter and F-Chromium Do I think these synergize all that much? Not really. But I still think the combo has merit. Getting lucky in a fight is quite nice, and having every hit you give hit like a truck is extra nice. I wonder if it would make savantism less of a problem, as you might be lucky enough to not get that injured? Anyway, cool, and in my opinion straightforward, combo. Resonance: I would say extra agility would be a nice resonance. Name: Boxer is a pretty nice one honestly. Rating: 7/10. Pretty decent, nothing special. Could still be an interesting character though!

Well, yeah. Of course!! I’m just saying that it probably would not equate to being a chimera. I would certainly think it would bend things more than just allomantic spikes, but I don’t think it would be as extreme as koloss or chimeras.

Yes! Another devotee!

Your Overlord has returned!!!! The F-Tin cult has returned to power after a 2-year hiatus. The goal is, of course, the same, and that is to convince the masses of the raw, unstoppable power of F-Tin. All are welcome, and though dissenters are permitted to contest any of the points that I and others have made, they must be willing to convert if a strong enough argument is made. From the ashes of silence, may this cult be reborn!!

Important extra note pertaining to my recent Tin-nanigains- Folks could store connection to Koloss when they are under their thrall, so that’s pretty cool!

Well, yeah, but still a sense that can be stored! Well, I honestly slightly doubt that. If it were the same way, it would be easily utilized by seekers. Now, you could argue it’s a matter of intent, but I think it’s more a matter of looking for the right thing. Yeahh, I guess you’re right. But I can’t complain about getting more reverse-compoundable things for other metals! So I would tend to disagree on this. I think it is highly dependent on what you are stealing from an animal. Is it their intelligence? Their strength? Their eyes? Their memories? I think all of these would lead to a different outcome, and only some would warp your mind. and as to @alder24’s points, Well, I certainly agree that fortune is an aspect of both electrum and atium, and maybe even gold. However, since there is some sort of “visual” component that doesn’t use your eyes (see: inquisitors), I think there is also some sense component to it. Well, that’s a fair point. Still, improves F-tin storing, so I count it as a win! Yep, this is certainly true. Which just gives more possibility for sense storing! Although, it would probably be easier to get breaths than a dawnshard…

Oh cool! That makes sense. And yeah, it feels like that’s somehow obtainable.

Hmmmmm interesting, interesting. No, you’re totally right. Gold compounding may be more interesting than I originally thought…

Aw man, did I already miss something important? What do you mean by this?

Well, @Trusk'our, you get half of your wish. Random Twinborn Combo Day 25: A-Bendalloy and F-Brass So this one is actually quite interesting! You have the almighty power of heat plus the almighty power of speed. Now, had this been physical speed, it would create heat. Since it’s temporal speed, while moving about would generate more heat over time for those outside the bubble, inside the bubble, where it counts, it would feel the same. Still, it’s a pretty cool duo. Now here’s a question: does a speed bubble give some form of resistance from external temperature? Obviously if a bomb were to explode, sending a heat wave your way, putting up a speed bubble would spare you from the heat. But what if regular temperatures? I suppose it would have some odd effects with wind, but it probably wouldn’t mess with infrared light, eh? What of rain or snow? I would assume the time bubble would mess with that in interesting ways. What I’m trying to say is that this Twinborn could not only have their own temperature resistance, they could probably be able to pass a bit of that on to others with clever use of speed bubbles. They would be the ultimate mountain climbing buddy! Keeping you warm and getting the climb done quickly. Honestly, that would be quite nice. Resonance: perhaps an increase in body heat spread? So you could feel their warmth (or coolness) from farther away. Name: Past Climber or Campfire, I don’t have any really cool names (just hot ones). Rating: 8.5/10. Had I not be so addicted to F-tin, this would be the ultimate comfort Twinborn combo for me. I could move from place to place quickly, get things done fast, and never have to worry about the weather. Slam dunk of a comfort Twinborn.

So it is by now no secret that I am a bit of an F-Tin addict. I’ve made probably too many posts about it, and have overthought it’s capabilities about five too many times. How much could one more hurt? Brandon Sanderson has a whole lot of different magic systems in the Cosmere, and a surprising amount have to do with senses in some form. Knowing this, I want to try to locate all of the possible supernatural senses that could be stored, as well as the possible preexisting senses that could be supernaturally given a boost through magical assistance. I’ll be going by planet, and seeing what is possible in each one. Scadrial Ah, home sweet home. I believe I’ve made a thread on this already, so I’ll try to keep it relatively brief. We have Allomantic steel and iron, where you could store that juicy 360 degree vision with Investiture detection abilities, which could be quite nice. You wouldn’t be able to affect any metals, but it would still be cool. I also doubt you could separate the metal detection from the 360 degree vision, but it would be cool if you could. Allomantic bronze works in much the same way, but I do wonder: would you be able to store sensing of Allomantic Investiture and something like sensing Feruchemantic investiture? The Sandlord has said that they are detected differently, but depending on how they are detected differently, maybe they could be separate senses? It’s a long shot, but I’ll take what I can get. Allomantic gold, electrum, and Atium Prime are odd ones. They give their own sense, yes, but they also do something else. Either tapping into Identity or Fortune, they end up messing with the Spiritual Realm. So I feel like they could be stored, but I doubt all of it could be stored. Gold Shadows could store the additional human+ maybe seeing out of their eyes as well, but with Atium and Electrum, if you aren’t storing Fortune, would storing the shadow do anything? Moving on from that weirdness, we have Allomantic tin and pewter. Neither give new sense, but they enhance preexisting ones. Tin enhances, well, all of em, and pewter enhances your sense of balance to match the increase in strength. Both can certainly be useful, and with A-Tin, you could compound, which would be pretty crazy. Now I come to a recent addition that I’m trying out. What of Koloss Sense? Powerful Soothers/Rioters have the ability to sense the koloss, and likely other Hemalurgic constructs they control, from a distance. Now, it’s been a while since I’ve read the original trilogy, and Coppermind is being not so accommodating, but I believe that they were able to detect the emotional state of the koloss, as well as the position that they were at. While one could argue that this is more of a telepathic link of sorts than it’s own sense, I would argue that it is a distinct way of taking in information about your surroundings, so therefore is a sense of sorts. This is a bit of a reach, but I have high hopes. Speaking of Hemalurgy, let’s talk about it. H-Tin steals senses, so that will certainly help give extra senses. Although, I would argue that, if you find the right bind points, you could steal an animal’s senses, such as the ability to see UV light, or infrared Vision. Maybe you could steal the enhanced night vision of an owl for example, but I’m not too sure if you could store that. Still, it would be quite interesting to see (pun intended). I’ll briefly go over some potential with Feruchemy, but there isn’t that much that I can see. Perhaps F-pewter would adjust proprioception, but I doubt it would really increase it. Past that, there really isn’t much that I can see that would add or increase senses. Nalthis: Nalthis, sweet Nalthis. Land of color and many different shenanigans. Let’s get the most obvious one out of the way. Lifesense. It’s what allows Nalthinians to have a faint idea about living beings around them, and with more breaths, that can be perfected. However, with the power of F-Tin, it can go even further! Storability is quite nice, and very possible. Now, there’s been controversy over the store-ability of perfect pitch and perfect color recognition. It’s an augmentation to a preexisting sense, but it doesn’t really seem different enough to be stored separately. But I feel like it has to do something for F-tin, right? I don’t know, maybe it’s me getting my hopes up, but I feel like there has to be some interaction. Sel: I don’t think there’s anything in Sel that could directly help, past maybe soulstamping, but at the same time we really don’t know much about the magic systems there. Threnody and Taldain I’m lumping these together, as we really don’t know much about either magic system. Maybe there’s something that could help Worldhopping Windwhisperers, but we just don’t know at the moment. First of The Sun Now we don’t know a lot about this funky little planet, but from what we have right now, we know that there is at least one aviar that can give you a new sense of sorts. I would interpret Sak’s visions as similar to electrum shadows in their storability. Roshar I’ve been avoiding this one, for a few reasons, but mostly due to the fact that I really don’t know that much about Roshar’s intricacies, and the lack of full exploration of all of the magic systems in the books certainly isn’t helping. But I’ll give it a try. The surge of gravitation theoretically gives at the very least a more honed sense of gravitational direction, from flying/falling about everywhere. Does it actually supernaturally increase that sense? Probably not, but it will at least improve it through use. The surge of transportation allows peeking into the Cognitive by Truthwatchers, but I doubt that’s really it’s own sense. I think it’s very likely that the Purelake spren sight works in much the same way, so I won’t be counting those. I also don’t think Dalinar or even Renarin’s visions really count, as they seem to be more of a cognitive thing playing with preexisting senses than a unique sense. But again, a more SA-nerdy fando might be able to give more insight. Now, Old Magic is a bit of a cheat, as you can get any extra sense or augmentation of senses, but it is also a bit of a bait, as unless you are really close with Cultivation, you don’t really get to choose what you get. We don’t really know how Old Magic works, but however it works, Cultivation calls the shots. Anyway, that’s all I can think of for Stormlight’s magic systems. There are many wild things you can do with em, but gaining new senses does not seem to be one of them. That just about wraps this megatheory up! If you have any new points to make, or if you contest some points that I have made, feel free to contribute! I am far from an expert in the Cosmere, just an F-Tin addict.

We’ll get to the boring ones when we get to the boring ones, okay? It’s RANDOM Twinborn combos >:(

You know, I used to have my own F-Tin cult…but then it died out. I’ve been needing an excuse to necromance it, but I’ve needed a good reason. I’ve created enough posts now that it might be possible…. Maybe be prepared for the reigniting of F-Tin Cult Reborn?

Random Twinborn Combo Day 24: A-Nicrosil and F-Tin You know, it sure is a shame that we aren’t getting anything where F-tin can reverse compound. Well, A-Nicrosil is pretty cool. Theoretically, one could Nicroburst a metalmind, but I don’t really know how that would work: could you Nicroburst your own metalminds? Probably, but would that do anything that you couldn’t do anyway? Probably not. F-tin is my favorite feruchemantic metal (believe it or not), and I really like it’s versatility. That being said, I’m not seeing a lot of synergy here. Nicrobursts are kind of front line-support folks, and like being in the thick of things and, while Windwhisperers could be in the thick of things, they generally would be acting as watchmen or something of the like. Still, I suppose it could be quite nice for a duo of sorts, with one being a heavy hitter, and the other being an enabler and agile attack dodger. With this Twinborn kinda acting as the Wayne-type. Resonance: perhaps fine control of storing, enabling easy going from deaf to acutely hearing? Name: Keenburst sounds weird, but I don’t have many other ideas. Rating: 7/10, but I could see that this would have a high complexity cap in the right environment.

Clotho braced herself. Delben touched her, with a firm grip. He always had a firm grip… Everything went dark. —————————————————— Waking up, Clotho realized she was not in the same room as she was before. Where was she? And why was it so quiet? In front of her was a woman. She was…Clotho. But…older. Lines creased her face, and she held a walking cane in front of her. How can there be an older self? ”You shouldn’t have come here.” The woman said. “For your own sanity, you should leave.” Clotho wasn’t going to give up so easily. “I need to know who I am! Who am I?” Before the woman could reply, everything faded to white. —————————————————— Clotho was in a room. Wooden flooring, unpainted walls. Shelves were broken in two, with papers and broken objects strewn across the floor. The ground was charred from a fire that had since died out. And in the center of a room, there was a girl. She wore a ragged dress, with soot lining the hem. Her hands were blackened, and her face was coated in a light layer of ash. Her eyes were green, like Clotho’s. The girl was crying. “Wh-who are you?” The girl whimpered. ”What…happened here?” This can’t be her past…could it? No. This was a self’s life. Not hers. “H-he took them. He took them.” ”Who? Where?” Clotho was no fighter, but she could likely get a self that could. She turned to see which selves she had- and there were none. She tried burning gold, and found…nothing. Her stores weren’t empty—they weren’t there. Before she could fully process this, her vision blurred. She found herself in front of a door, with the doorframe off its hinges. The girl was behind her, cowering with fear. This girl needs me. I won’t let her down. Cautiously stepping over the door, Clotho entered the remains of the room. Blood oozed toward her feet. Bodies, dismembered, laid around the room, all in pieces. Limbs were detached from bodies, and a soulless head looked glassily at Clotho. Before she could scream, A figure in the center of the room spoke. “Hello there missy” The man wore a devilish smile, with intricate tattoos lining his shaved head. Where his eyes should be were two gigantic metal spikes, stabbed straight through his eye sockets. His body was covered in blood, and gore dropped from a massive axe that he held with one hand. “I’ve been waiting for you.”

Random Twinborn Combo Day 23: A-Chromium and F-Brass So I believe I’ve said what I need to say about A-chromium-better than nothing, but often a stab in the gut is better than a touch on metallic wiping. However, it is a good point that with time, it can wipe investiture from a metalmind, which can indeed be pretty cool. F-Brass is useful for being a sweaterlord all day every day, as well as becoming the human torch if need be. A nice ability, but not insane exactly. However, I do like that a twinborn like this could weaponize their hands, making them burn things to the touch, and also leech using Chromium. Makes both better, in a way. I could certainly imagine a monk-like character fighting people with their bare hands, and it working out really well. Resonance: Honestly don’t know. Name: Poisonfist would be quite the superhero name, so I’ll roll with that one. Rating: 7/10. Not great, but pretty cool nonetheless.

Hey! That’s a pretty good one!

If the aim of the game is to be gay, then it sure is!

You know, I wish I could add to this theory in some way, but it’s just so good. Props to you, @cometaryorbit. Just a fantastic theory that I 100% buy.

Truly a terrible instance of gay erasure