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The quiz is programmed to give a lower chance for Bondsmiths. You get 10 scores based on the sums of the distances squared from the ideal answer for each order. The lowest score is what you are placed into. The Bondsmith score is multiplied by a constant first. (1.3, I think)
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Remember that it is "...so long as Dalinar Kholin agrees." It depends completely on whatever law is being followed. If the law required a separation, they would. If the law did not establish a separation, they wouldn't really care, at least not the group as a whole.
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Vin used the mists, which allowed her to push off his atium bracers, reverting him back to his natural state: immensely old and frail, which gold can't heal. TLR was arrogant. He assumed it was impossible for anyone to kill him, so he didn't try to kill Vin. If he had tried, he would have won immediately, like you said.
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As an INTP Skybreaker, I'm pretty sure that the connection between the Radiant Orders and MBTI aren't really that strong. There are correlations for sure, but the two categorizations are describing different things. Your Radiant Order is more representative of how you want to live your life and what you value. MBTI represents your personality traits and cognitive functions. For example, one thing INTPs are known for is ignoring rules/laws that they think don't make sense, whereas Skybreakers are known for sticking to the rules no matter what. Yet, there is still a way to fall under both. If I am presented with a rule, my INTP tendencies still immediately try to determine whether or not it makes sense, but in considering the logic of the rule, I also take into account the fact that ignoring the rule is likely to introduce many unknown variables to the situation, and thus the logical decision is usually to follow it, as a Skybreaker would, increasing my ability to adapt to the future events. Beyond that, the personalization of the oaths allows for a lot of leeway, such as how Skybreakers don't really need to follow the laws of the land, just some external code.
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The translation is off. Actually, looking back at the page, there are quite a few mistranslated spots, which I can correct, but the images will still have the incorrect words on them.
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There was a very minor translation error from women's script on the Navani's notebook page (minor enough to not really be important), and I corrected the error, but the image paired with the translation also includes the error. The translation of the emotion bracelet page read, "...or the emotions of the people in the next room over," which I corrected to "...or the emotions of the person in the next room over." My main question is if there is an easy way to edit the corresponding image to have the same correction. I don't know how difficult it would be to correct the image, but as I said, it's not really that important, so if it would be difficult to change, it would be fine left as it is.
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If the lines came from your center of gravity, you also wouldn't be able to balance on a single coin.
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Leatherbound Giveaway and Livestream Roundup
Chiberty commented on Paleo's article in Events, Signings, & Giveaways
@Paleo The giveaway is only for one set of leatherbounds (minus Elantris), and the other two prizes are the 3 hardcover Stormlight books. -
Me: I'll just read one more chapter of Oathbringer before I go to sleep. Chapter 120 - The Spear That Would Not Break:
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It's useful as a blanket term, or when you're not referring to a specific one. Ex: "Allomancers ingest metal to use their powers."
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Since allomancer can refer to both mistings and mistborn, and feruchemist can refer to both ferrings and full feruchemists. They're just more general terms.
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Storing is limited.
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Otherwise, it is unclear whether you are using "feruchemist" like "allomancer" or like "mistborn." Misting - Ferring Mistborn - (full) Feruchemist Allomancer - Feruchemist
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No confirmations yet, but there are definitely hints.
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17-20 is more accurate. Maybe less.
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I don't really want a bunch of discussion over the OB outline either, but that is what you are basing your point about RoW on. One problem with the way you're assigning characters to the chart is the assumption that word count is what qualifies a character for a certain spot. They are certainly related, but since we know exactly how OB is laid out now, we can see that it is not the one determining factor. As you showed, assuming that causes there to be characters that aren't included. Rather than deciding on arbitrary assumptions like that, we can instead find the model that best fits what we already know the data is. In that WoB I posted, he does say that Eshonai and Szeth would be counted as tertiary, but you have to look at that in context with the rest. He says that he would have listed them that way in terms of viewpoints, but that the way he actually did it was different. When he says, "a few others," since we know that there were only 4 tertiary characters, it is clear that the specific wording in that case was just a mistake. He meant to say something similar, but slipped in wording it in a way that made it contradictory. As I showed before, when I placed the characters in the OB outline, there were also two novelettes as part of the outline. You claim that these were simply part of the structure, but doing so, as you said, would leave characters out. There are numerous Bridge 4 characters that would otherwise not be included, but their viewpoints happen to line up with one of the novelettes. That would be able to include both Rock and Moash without any issue. Brandon has also said in the past that he considers the through-line interlude characters arc to be a novelette, which takes care of Venli. That leaves two tertiary slots open, with the next two characters in line being Jasnah and Navani, which also happens to fit what he said in the WoB. If you look at the remaining characters, they only have viewpoints in the interludes and Part 5. That also happens to be exactly how the short story collection is shown. Doing it that way didn't fit the chart exactly, like how Jasnah actually did have some viewpoints in Part 5, but it fits what we have as close as possible. As I showed above, all characters were included in the OB outline. Besides that, there are some clear differences between the OB and RoW outline charts. One thing that was mentioned, but wasn't on the chart, is the novellete. That is the interlude main character, and I included them in my chart despite it not being on Brandon's graphic organizer. There are effectively 10 spots, not 9. The other thing that is not included is the short story collection, although we know that that is just the minor interlude characters. They could be included for a very short time outside the interludes, like what happened in OB, but that doesn't fit the description of Adolin's PoVs in this book. Beyond that, it makes little sense to try to place Adolin outside of the format because as of yet, there is significant evidence for placing him in the format, and it does not cause any contradictions. If there were more than 10 characters that Brandon had stated to have a few viewpoints in the book, then it would make sense to try to identify who is most likely to not be in the format. Until that is the case, it is more beneficial to try to identify who is most likely to be in the format. Right now, Adolin is among the 8 with the most evidence supporting them. If that number slips over 10, then it would be beneficial to consider. Right now though, as I have said before, although it is technically a valid point to make, it is unlikely enough compared to the other possibilities that it is not yet very beneficial.
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I'm somewhat confused about your claim here. In that WoB, he is talking about the outline chart. Not only does that WoB come from the same OB update you referenced, but it also directly references the "above outline."
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@Karger, @Pathfinder This is from dnavenom, one of the contestants: Also relevant: The images in the link include other interesting elements, such as Adolin, Maya, and Pattern.
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I included this, but you may have missed it: Again, you are free to not trust the source. I don't know why they wanted to remain anonymous, but I am trying to respect their wishes. Like I said before, I am inclined to trust it, but if you don't, I just won't mention it when discussing with you.
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Feel free to be critical. Very little of the information is completely definitive. Many of the spots that are "locked down" in the post just have good supporting evidence. There are some things that are more concrete, but I'll reevaluate my analysis with any new information that we get, whether it supports or opposes the conclusions that have already been drawn. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear of how definitive this analysis is. The idea here is to only make assumptions that narrow our possibilities down much more than they decrease the likelihood. Most assumptions will narrow things down and decrease the likelihood equal amounts, and we want to avoid those. I would also like this to be more definitive, but without making any assumptions, we can figure out very little, while by making small and very likely assumptions, many pieces move into place. I've tried to be clear when arguing my points that I'm not trying to present these things with 100% certainty, but I apologize if that was not as clear as I intended. If there are specific points that you fell like I am substituting correlation for causation on, please point those out.
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That is true. I'm inclined to trust this information, but you are, of course, free to question its validity. Also, the WoB they gave doesn't change the group format that is already suggested by the more public WoBs; it gives support to evidence that we already had, so even if you don't want to trust this information, there is other information that leads to the same conclusion that it does. If you would like me to support the same placement for Adolin without referencing that WoB, I can, as I had done in my original post (although now I have included that reference alongside the other information).
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If you look at which characters line up most with the sections on the chart, you get: - Dalinar, Shallan, and Kaladin as primary and secondary characters - Adolin, Szeth, Jasnah, and Navani as tertiary characters, which he even confirms: - Venli and Bridge 4 (including Moash) as the two novelettes - Taravangian, Lift, Ash, Renarin, and the various interlude characters as part of the short story collection, which works because the "short story collection" also extends beyond the interludes and into part 5 A couple things were changed (like how Adolin actually did have one PoV in Part 3), but all of the characters are included in it. The ones lumped together in the short story collection are those that were only part of the interludes or the "sanderlanche." For Adolin to be part of the "short story collection," he would need to have a similar short role. If his viewpoints appeared in a similar "sanderlanche" fashion, it wouldn't make sense for Sanderson to claim that he gets a "decent chunk" of the book. In OB, as I showed, the only characters that were not mentioned more directly in the outline were those in the short story collection, the most significant of which was Taravangian, who only took up a third of the viewpoint space as Jasnah, the least significant tertiary character. In no way did any of those characters that were lumped into the "short story collection" get a decent chunk of the book. Oathbringer statistical analysis for reference
