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Shards get an intuitive grasp of realmatics. In fact, you need to be a Shard or Splinter to even begin to understand realmatic theory.
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Weight has nothing to do with allomantic Push/pull strength.
Phantom Monstrosity replied to Khmauv's topic in Mistborn
Why? Fifty newtons is fifty newtons. If an object is feeling 50 newtons on it, it could care less what's on the other end of the push. It'll accelerate the same no matter if you're chained to a railroad or lying on a slip'n'slide. Of course, you generally don't want your coins to fly away out of pushing distance, which is why you need to anchor them. Again, if weight didn't matter, Wax could (at any time) explode a building from the inside, ripping it to shreds. -
Yeah, I can't quote on my phone. Good to see other forumites picking up the slack.
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I'll have one in a bit. It's in HoA.
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Gaming the System - Crazy Extrapolations
Phantom Monstrosity replied to Phantom Monstrosity's topic in Cosmere Discussion
"The bartender has been watering down the drinks" seems pretty plausible to me, yeah. -
Weight has nothing to do with allomantic Push/pull strength.
Phantom Monstrosity replied to Khmauv's topic in Mistborn
Yes, the scaling isn't in perfect lockstep with with your mass. Just like your physical strength. And, just like how you always have physical strength to stand, you should always have enough allomantic strength to hover. See, his ability to push increases with weight. Explicitly. He's got enough force in his steelpushes to crush a building. -
Weight has nothing to do with allomantic Push/pull strength.
Phantom Monstrosity replied to Khmauv's topic in Mistborn
... okay, if I understand properly, you just agreed with me on 'if you push a boulder while weighing 100x normal, you push it 100x as hard'. So let's say you aren't using any weight manipulation. You weigh 100 kg. You're pushing down on the boulder with enough force to exactly counter gravity - 1kN. You float, the boulder doesn't shatter, everything is chill. Acceleration = Force / mass. So your acceleration from allomancy is 1 kN/100 kg =10 m/s^2. Equal to gravity, everything is cool. Now let's say you tap iron and weigh 100x normal. You now have a mass of 10,000 kg. You just agreed that under those circumstances 'he can push the boulder with a hundred times the amount of force that he could without his metalminds'. So you push against the boulder with 100kN. (The boulder probably would shatter, just like the vanisher hideout did, but assume it's strong). The reaction (via newton's third law), is also going to be 100kN, correct? That's a huge amount of force - but you now weigh 10,000 kg. Acceleration = Force / mass. So your acceleration from allomancy is 100 kN/10,000 kg =10 m/s^2. Equal to gravity, you're still floating in place. -
Weight has nothing to do with allomantic Push/pull strength.
Phantom Monstrosity replied to Khmauv's topic in Mistborn
But your 'own weight' is lower, so you've got less to push against the object with. Of course, iron feruchemy seems a little nonsymmetrical in how it handles the necessary secondary strength it provides. It seems like it gives you extra strength, but it scales slightly less than you'd need to just walk around normally - wax has trouble holding up his gun when at super weight, but doesn't have any trouble at light weight. Despite how you get the ability to hold up five times your weight standing when tapping iron, you get more agile when storing into iron. If allomantic strength scales like physical strength when you use weight, that would mean that when storing you'd become a little faster, but when storing 50% you'd be like... 160% of normal speed, not 200% -
Weight has nothing to do with allomantic Push/pull strength.
Phantom Monstrosity replied to Khmauv's topic in Mistborn
Ah, okay, then you've been agreeing with me that your weight *does* influence how strong your pushes and pulls are. He'd have less weight, so his pushes are weaker, correct? So instead of pushing against a boulder with 100% he'd be pushing with 50%, which means the boulder is going to only feel that much. If the boulder is reacting with 50%, and he weighs 50%, he should get the same acceleration, give or take. Depends how allomantic power and your mass stack - if it's a strict multiplier then your maximum takeoff speed is based solely off allomantic power. If it's in some way additive, then you'd get way faster at very low weights, since it'd be (base power + some tiny number)/(some tiny number) instead of base power*(some tiny number)/(some tiny number). Feru weight is also weird in a few respects, since it doesn't make you super weak when storing it (wax is light on his feet when storing, which is why he always goes around at 75%), but gives you enough strength to stand up when tapping. -
Weight has nothing to do with allomantic Push/pull strength.
Phantom Monstrosity replied to Khmauv's topic in Mistborn
Okay, it seemed like you were saying it was a binary 'one moves, or the other moves'. So if Wax decides to weigh a hundred times as much, will you agree that he can push the boulder with a hundred times the amount of force that he could without his metalminds? -
Weight has nothing to do with allomantic Push/pull strength.
Phantom Monstrosity replied to Khmauv's topic in Mistborn
The action/reaction obeys Newton and always applies equally in both directions. -
Weight has nothing to do with allomantic Push/pull strength.
Phantom Monstrosity replied to Khmauv's topic in Mistborn
In your example with Wax And The Boulder, are you saying that he's just standing there without moving, and changing his weight? -
Theory: Adonalsium cannot be put back together again
Phantom Monstrosity replied to WeiryWriter's topic in Cosmere Discussion
You seem to be using the word 'understand' in a way different from common English. -
Weight has nothing to do with allomantic Push/pull strength.
Phantom Monstrosity replied to Khmauv's topic in Mistborn
So how high can they hover at maximum over an ingot? I believe by your model Teeny Tiny Vin should be significantly higher than Big Beefy Kelsier, since she's stronger than him allomantically, and weighs less. -
Weight has nothing to do with allomantic Push/pull strength.
Phantom Monstrosity replied to Khmauv's topic in Mistborn
What do you mean by 'weight behind the push'? Let's say we have Big Beefy Kelsier and Teeny Tiny Vin. Both of them are falling, and push down on a nail so they're slowed down. Is Kelsier going to drive the nail further into the wood than Teeny Tiny Vin? Or, let's say Big Beefy Kelsier and Teeny Tiny Vin both push off a coin, and go as high as they can, hovering in midair. Will they end up at the same maximum height? -
The Alcubierre has the slight problem that it requires a lot of negative energy (which most current physical models don't like), and it'd be basically impossible to build, start, or stop it - so it's possible that even if you built one you'd never be able to go home and brag about it.
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What Happens if Shallan draws Kaladin
Phantom Monstrosity replied to Binnut's topic in Stormlight Archive
She's hanging out with Dalinar and Jasnath, and upon inspecting troops finds Kaladin striking. -
Weight has nothing to do with allomantic Push/pull strength.
Phantom Monstrosity replied to Khmauv's topic in Mistborn
I think you're contradicting yourself here. You're saying that Big Beefy Kelsier has 100 pounds of extra force compared to Teeny Tiny Vin, right? -
Theory: Adonalsium cannot be put back together again
Phantom Monstrosity replied to WeiryWriter's topic in Cosmere Discussion
It is perfectly possible to deal with esoteric mathematical constructs that are completely divorced from any underlying reality. -
Clearly not the case. Vin had more freedom of action because she had a little Ruin.
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I'm pretty sure hair would be subject to the protection - we never hear about miles or wayne being bald or missing fingernails, so it seems like that stuff is covered under feruchemical health (and thus should be covered by heat). Clothing, on the other hand, not so much. He should end up naked.
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I think lifeless Orders do have a lot in common with Commands.
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That wasn't the Command, that was an order.
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It also works on squirrels.
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Well, if you eat enough lerasium to become a lerasium savant, you end up becoming Preservation. But aside from savant-changes, I'm pretty sure lerasium just rewrites your spiritweb - eating more lerasium without knowing how to use it would make you a 100% mistborn again. If you know how to use it, there's all sorts of really cool things you could do with it.
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