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I think Wyndle and Pattern would have a great time complaining to each other about how their human masters like to use them meanwhile Syl laughs and says it's not a human thing it's women and that they should stop complaining.

And it is better to change then remain the same no matter what that change may bring! Nice

Don't be ashamed, I didn't get it until the 2nd listen through of the audio book.

This is just something I thought would be interesting to do. Make up your own theories whether they be the unlikeliest of scenarios (I really want Lopen and Lift as a couple later) or just jokes! Syl and Kaladin's mom will definitely have a girl talk. My first one is of a more serious nature. The stormfather and Tanavast fought The unmade and Odium above Natanattan thus causing the shattering of the plains! Genius right?!

Plus his tattooed body and the fact he was (probably?) trying to gather dizzy spren and mentioned the island's spren is a good indicator

@Reborn radiant I like the idea of them becoming more aligned because of the murders. It could make Shallan the perfect person to comfort Adolin in the aftermath of his actions if he is feeling sick about what he did. Thus making them even closer! Nice!

I think Naln will be the continuous interlude chapter throughout the book, probably meeting with all the heralds and trying to gather them. Shallash most importantly since she's supposed to be a latter character

The reference to ten orders could indeed mean it's a Radiant however, "shard of my soul" makes me think Herald. Although the grammar confuses me a bit. Ten orders. We were loved, once. Why have you forsaken us, Almighty! Shard of my soul, where have you gone? Is that comma meaning that he is cursing or asking the almighty? Also does the exclamation point separate it from the last bit, because if it is read as "Why have you forsaken us almighty shard of my soul where have you gone? The meaning is vastly different. Calling the almighty a shard and such. Storms I need to retake an English class on punctuation!

I want to see how cultivation is worshipped in the east and how much soulcasting has to do with that religion.

Upvote! They broke the oath by abandoning Taln and not going back to braise, not abandoning their weapons.

Lol the question is, do you really want to know?

Not soul. Mind. Also where did you find this? Arcanum Unbound?!

Reference? Also do you agree with the DRs?

Yes. Or they're hopping from body to body, which I find doubtful. They are immortal through some means though.

Because his cognitive shadow is already in someone else who first touched the blade. Jezrien is still alive all the Heralds are. Their blades no longer hold the shadows. Hole mended!

@Tariniel "Could it be that the some form of the Heralds' minds are held in their Blades? Being that the Honorblades are a large part of what makes a Herald a Herald, that seems to make sense to me. Taking this a little further, it could be that the Heralds are tortured on Braize, not only until they break, but until they actually die. At least physically. Their minds live on in the Honorblades, which then return to Roshar and are bonded by the bodies which will eventually become the new Heralds. There is even a WoB (It's here, I believe) which says that they can remain on Roshar for a certain period of time before another Desolation begins. That could be a transitional phase when the bodies accustom themselves to holding the Herald's mind within them, allowing for them to be fully adjusted and ready to carry out their individual missions once the Desolation starts. This 'Taln' could simply be the body holding the Herald Talenelat, a suitable explanation for Brandon's cryptic way of referring to him. What do you guys think?" This was a brilliant idea I ran across made by @Tariniel that I wanted to add to with a tiny bit of evidence Here are all the Death Rattles that I believe to be made by Taln This is the first and most related to the above paragraph. That shard of his soul could be the Honorblades. Which could explain that Taln's physical body is still in Braize. While his blade became the man known as Taln once Talenel broke physically in braize, splitting his cognitive shadow (which I also believe to be held in the blades) from his body. This "Shard of his soul" is now on Roshar somewhere... since there is another entire topic related to Talenel's blade I shall just maintain that the "man known as Taln" as said by a WoB must have touched the fallen honorblade and was imprinted or perhaps IS a living Honorblade, A Nightblood esque chracter who is an actual physical human. This is Taln's death in my opinion. Perhaps the most shocking evidence of how devastating the betrayal of the other Heralds really is. Taln stands not just the average every day torment in hell, but rather one compounded. Atlas bearing the weight of a world in my opinion. Also the "Madness of them all" is interesting, since we know the "Heralds are all insane" per WoB, I wonder if perhaps this insanity was still given to the others even though they didn't return to Braize. This last death rattle is Taln's blade returning to Roshar, along with his cognitive shadow to be implanted upon the new Taln. All responses are welcome and arguments appreciated!

It's very clearly tied to the Heralds and the their was still one who remained bound by the Oathpact Talenel Elin These are Taln's messages through Death Rattles, and the oathpact continued until he broke, which allowed the void spren to return I believe.

Agreed, and I'm interested to see how Naln proceeds from now on, revenge on Ishar perhaps? Who knows

Upvote! So are there different rhythms for every kind of spren? Same question with forms... Also if there are forms of Odium are there also forms of Honor? Or will this be how Eshonai gets to become a Radiant she will adopt a spren of Honor... (or cultivation) Maybe that's why they think the spren betrayed them because the forms of power that were once available through cultivation and honor were instead given to humans as surges through the Nahel bond

@Extesian Then what is the connection between the rhythms and gaining new forms I wonder? Powered by Odium, but not all forms are corruptable... So why did he even create those forms in the first place? Or were all the non evil forms the price of giving power and dominating the parshendi and parshmen? Perhaps the same way that the ideals were the price of power for the KR

Dedicated to Lift and Kaladin Leaves upon wind, loving together, dancing, together love, wind upon leaves. Above as below, a wind racing, the dancer, the race, winding below as above

Dedicated to Lift and Kaladin Leaves upon wind, loving together, dancing, together love, wind upon leaves. Above as below, a wind racing, the dancer, the race, winding below as above.

Ow... my storming eyes! That post just hit me like a shardblade

It was more of a questioning. Do they deserve blame or not, and how much? But I did a poor job of conveying that and have since reevaluated my stance not that I think they are any less blameless or culpable but rather that they deserve just as much pity.

Thanks for the reference.