CoderDrag0n8 He/They Posted September 18, 2025 Posted September 18, 2025 2 minutes ago, Hmmm lies said: (Opportunity to infodump identified) A neopronoun (literally means new-pronoun) is a personal pronoun outside of he/him or she/her or they/them. Some common examples are xe/xer and ze/zem. I'm honestly not the biggest expert on them, but they're typically used by non-binary people who don't feel like standard pronouns fit them. I've commonly seen them be used by xenogendered people, however I feel like there should be a standard gender-neutral pronoun that isn't plural like them/them is. Oh ok then yes 1
Keke They/he Posted September 18, 2025 Posted September 18, 2025 13 minutes ago, Hmmm lies said: I'm pretty sure themselves is correct, however it does kinda sound like there's multiple people. This is a problem I've had with the English language for a while now, that the only gender-neutral pronouns we have are also used to describe multiple people. This leads me into a discussion topic: Should neopronouns be adopted as singular gender-neutral pronouns? I think it really depends. Some peope use the neopronouns cause they don’t wanna have either one or a gender thats fitted to them. So not gender neutral but a new one. Which is why it gets confusing. Ersonally ive never met a neopronoun user and idk if there is one on the shard who can offer two cents in this debate. So id say no. Or we get a new set for gender neutral singled ones. 3 minutes ago, Hmmm lies said: (Opportunity to infodump identified) A neopronoun (literally means new-pronoun) is a personal pronoun outside of he/him or she/her or they/them. Some common examples are xe/xer and ze/zem. I'm honestly not the biggest expert on them, but they're typically used by non-binary people who don't feel like standard pronouns fit them. I've commonly seen them be used by xenogendered people, however I feel like there should be a standard gender-neutral pronoun that isn't plural like them/them is. Yes. Just not all neopronouns. Like i said. Maybe we get a new set. 1
Hmmm lies she/her Posted September 18, 2025 Posted September 18, 2025 (Slight correction, I accidently mixed up the neopronoun sets, the typical ones are xe/xem and ze/zir) 4 minutes ago, Hawks said: I think it really depends. Some peope use the neopronouns cause they don’t wanna have either one or a gender thats fitted to them. So not gender neutral but a new one. Which is why it gets confusing. Ersonally ive never met a neopronoun user and idk if there is one on the shard who can offer two cents in this debate. So id say no. Or we get a new set for gender neutral singled ones. Yes. Just not all neopronouns. Like i said. Maybe we get a new set. A new set would probably be ideal, but I feel like if this were to actually happen, existing neopronouns might be appropriated. I'm not non-binary though, so I'm not really qualified to discuss from that lens, only from the lens of someone who kinda knows a little about linguistic shift. But anyway yeah, it's my point of view that while a new neopronoun (A neo-neopronoun?) would be ideal, an existing one being appropriated is better than not having a singular gender-neutral pronoun at all. But then maybe that's just me being pessimistic. I will say, I think one of my biggest problems when it comes to talking about queer stuff is that I am too enamored with labels and the "proper" way to do things or having a standard or something. It's really only recently that I started to understand why other people care less about labels.
Kansas Stormcursed he/him Posted September 18, 2025 Posted September 18, 2025 Just now, Hmmm lies said: (Slight correction, I accidently mixed up the neopronoun sets, the typical ones are xe/xem and ze/zir) A new set would probably be ideal, but I feel like if this were to actually happen, existing neopronouns might be appropriated. I'm not non-binary though, so I'm not really qualified to discuss from that lens, only from the lens of someone who kinda knows a little about linguistic shift. But anyway yeah, it's my point of view that while a new neopronoun (A neo-neopronoun?) would be ideal, an existing one being appropriated is better than not having a singular gender-neutral pronoun at all. But then maybe that's just me being pessimistic. I will say, I think one of my biggest problems when it comes to talking about queer stuff is that I am too enamored with labels and the "proper" way to do things or having a standard or something. It's really only recently that I started to understand why other people care less about labels. I agree that if this were to happen, we'd probably take the easy route and just appropriate one of the existing sets. We as a general humanity group don't much like coming up with new things 1
SpartanBrigade He/Him Posted September 18, 2025 Posted September 18, 2025 1 minute ago, Hmmm lies said: (Slight correction, I accidently mixed up the neopronoun sets, the typical ones are xe/xem and ze/zir) A new set would probably be ideal, but I feel like if this were to actually happen, existing neopronouns might be appropriated. I'm not non-binary though, so I'm not really qualified to discuss from that lens, only from the lens of someone who kinda knows a little about linguistic shift. But anyway yeah, it's my point of view that while a new neopronoun (A neo-neopronoun?) would be ideal, an existing one being appropriated is better than not having a singular gender-neutral pronoun at all. But then maybe that's just me being pessimistic. I will say, I think one of my biggest problems when it comes to talking about queer stuff is that I am too enamored with labels and the "proper" way to do things or having a standard or something. It's really only recently that I started to understand why other people care less about labels. Yeah terms and labels are extremely fluid here 1
Keke They/he Posted September 18, 2025 Posted September 18, 2025 25 minutes ago, Hmmm lies said: (Slight correction, I accidently mixed up the neopronoun sets, the typical ones are xe/xem and ze/zir) A new set would probably be ideal, but I feel like if this were to actually happen, existing neopronouns might be appropriated. I'm not non-binary though, so I'm not really qualified to discuss from that lens, only from the lens of someone who kinda knows a little about linguistic shift. But anyway yeah, it's my point of view that while a new neopronoun (A neo-neopronoun?) would be ideal, an existing one being appropriated is better than not having a singular gender-neutral pronoun at all. But then maybe that's just me being pessimistic. I will say, I think one of my biggest problems when it comes to talking about queer stuff is that I am too enamored with labels and the "proper" way to do things or having a standard or something. It's really only recently that I started to understand why other people care less about labels. Also my friend did research and themself is actually a real word thats gramatically correct Yeah neopronouns confuse me. Because I don’t understand them. I was confused by trans until i understood what it was from peoples experience. I haven’t met someone who has used neopronouns so i dont have first person words o what and how it is//feel but i realllyyyy wanna learn about it cause i dont wanna say anything bad or mean or undeducated to/about them. 1
Honors Spectral Image She/her Posted September 28, 2025 Posted September 28, 2025 I’m still not back yet but I’m like 100%sure I’m trans now. More like 99%. Why is it so hard *finds a corner and crys* 3
Kansas Stormcursed he/him Posted September 28, 2025 Posted September 28, 2025 3 minutes ago, Honors ghost said: I’m still not back yet but I’m like 100%sure I’m trans now. More like 99%. Why is it so hard *finds a corner and crys* Spoiler Spoiler *whispers* Spoiler Called it 1
Hmmm lies she/her Posted September 28, 2025 Posted September 28, 2025 29 minutes ago, Honors ghost said: I’m still not back yet but I’m like 100%sure I’m trans now. More like 99%. Why is it so hard *finds a corner and crys* wait were you not already? (Why am I asking this question? Clearly it is self-evident that my previously-held assumption is incorrect. What I am really doing is asking for more details in such a way that reveals that I had previously had a misconception.) 1
SpartanBrigade He/Him Posted September 28, 2025 Posted September 28, 2025 3 minutes ago, Hmmm lies said: wait were you not already? (Why am I asking this question? Clearly it is self-evident that my previously-held assumption is incorrect. What I am really doing is asking for more details in such a way that reveals that I had previously had a misconception.) What she said
Ink and Embers Any pronouns Posted September 28, 2025 Posted September 28, 2025 4 hours ago, Honors ghost said: I’m still not back yet but I’m like 100%sure I’m trans now. More like 99%. Why is it so hard *finds a corner and crys* You've got this!!! 1
Honors Spectral Image She/her Posted September 28, 2025 Posted September 28, 2025 9 hours ago, Hmmm lies said: wait were you not already? (Why am I asking this question? Clearly it is self-evident that my previously-held assumption is incorrect. What I am really doing is asking for more details in such a way that reveals that I had previously had a misconception.) 9 hours ago, SpartanBrigade said: What she said So like I kinda am but I wasn’t sure like that’s why my pronouns on the shard are she/they bc I wanted to see how I felt abt using female pronouns (I did this expecting to prove to myself I was a guy… it did not work) so I say I’m pretty sure I’m trans now bc I had thought abt it before but like yah idk does this make sense? 10 hours ago, Kansas Stormcursed said: Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents *whispers* Reveal hidden contents Called it I hate you 5 hours ago, Ink and Embers said: You've got this!!! Thxxxxx 3
Keke They/he Posted September 28, 2025 Posted September 28, 2025 13 hours ago, Honors ghost said: I’m still not back yet but I’m like 100%sure I’m trans now. More like 99%. Why is it so hard *finds a corner and crys* *hugs* its ok babbyyyyyy (platonic) *holds you* i feel you. Okie. I shall hold you until you domt wanna be hugged anymore. Cause I feel your pain. And I wanna make sure your not alone. 3
CoderDrag0n8 He/They Posted September 28, 2025 Posted September 28, 2025 6 hours ago, Honors ghost said: So like I kinda am but I wasn’t sure like that’s why my pronouns on the shard are she/they bc I wanted to see how I felt abt using female pronouns (I did this expecting to prove to myself I was a guy… it did not work) so I say I’m pretty sure I’m trans now bc I had thought abt it before but like yah idk does this make sense? I hate you Thxxxxx wait... You *were* a boy? Uhhhhh wierd 1
Honors Spectral Image She/her Posted September 28, 2025 Posted September 28, 2025 37 minutes ago, CoderDrag0n8 said: wait... You *were* a boy? Uhhhhh wierd Bahahahahahahha yes unfortunately 4 hours ago, Hawks said: *hugs* its ok babbyyyyyy (platonic) *holds you* i feel you. Okie. I shall hold you until you domt wanna be hugged anymore. Cause I feel your pain. And I wanna make sure your not alone. Thx I rly appreciate that *hugs back*
SpartanBrigade He/Him Posted September 28, 2025 Posted September 28, 2025 7 hours ago, Honors ghost said: So like I kinda am but I wasn’t sure like that’s why my pronouns on the shard are she/they bc I wanted to see how I felt abt using female pronouns (I did this expecting to prove to myself I was a guy… it did not work) so I say I’m pretty sure I’m trans now bc I had thought abt it before but like yah idk does this make sense? I hate you Thxxxxx Ah gotcha *hugs* *all the hugs* 1
Honors Spectral Image She/her Posted September 28, 2025 Posted September 28, 2025 43 minutes ago, SpartanBrigade said: Ah gotcha *hugs* *all the hugs* Thxxxxxx *hugs back* 1
Hmmm lies she/her Posted September 29, 2025 Posted September 29, 2025 Oh, I see you've changed your pronouns to she/her. I imagine any last shades of denial have faded away. Welp, you know you can always look to us for support! (Also I'm sorry, but this situation sounds actually hilarious. "Oh, I'm so confident I'm cis that I'll change my pronouns to she/they just to show how much I won't like it.") 4
Kansas Stormcursed he/him Posted September 29, 2025 Posted September 29, 2025 13 minutes ago, Hmmm lies said: Oh, I see you've changed your pronouns to she/her. I imagine any last shades of denial have faded away. Welp, you know you can always look to us for support! (Also I'm sorry, but this situation sounds actually hilarious. "Oh, I'm so confident I'm cis that I'll change my pronouns to she/they just to show how much I won't like it.") Yeah I've been teasing her about it for awhile. It's amusing. Also new pfp? 2
Keke They/he Posted September 29, 2025 Posted September 29, 2025 28 minutes ago, Hmmm lies said: Oh, I see you've changed your pronouns to she/her. I imagine any last shades of denial have faded away. Welp, you know you can always look to us for support! (Also I'm sorry, but this situation sounds actually hilarious. "Oh, I'm so confident I'm cis that I'll change my pronouns to she/they just to show how much I won't like it.") Slay!!! *hugs* I love the pfp!! 2
Hmmm lies she/her Posted September 29, 2025 Posted September 29, 2025 Yes, my old pfp was AI generated, and I don't really like that anymore, plus I've been using this pfp for some other stuff, it's cute, so yeah 3
CoderDrag0n8 He/They Posted September 29, 2025 Posted September 29, 2025 2 hours ago, Hmmm lies said: Yes, my old pfp was AI generated, and I don't really like that anymore, plus I've been using this pfp for some other stuff, it's cute, so yeah What is this PFP from? 3
Hmmm lies she/her Posted September 29, 2025 Posted September 29, 2025 6 hours ago, CoderDrag0n8 said: What is this PFP from? Well apparently the image originates from a comic someone drew, but at some point this character (don't even know her name lol) became a popular meme image thing in the transfem community. 2
Honors Spectral Image She/her Posted September 29, 2025 Posted September 29, 2025 11 hours ago, Hmmm lies said: Oh, I see you've changed your pronouns to she/her. I imagine any last shades of denial have faded away. Welp, you know you can always look to us for support! (Also I'm sorry, but this situation sounds actually hilarious. "Oh, I'm so confident I'm cis that I'll change my pronouns to she/they just to show how much I won't like it.") Hehehehe ye it is funny lol. Thanks I love you all Also love the pfp I see it on Reddit a lot lollll 11 hours ago, Kansas Stormcursed said: Yeah I've been teasing her about it for awhile. It's amusing. Also new pfp? The message abt loving you all does not apply to you I hate you (jk jk) 2
CoderDrag0n8 He/They Posted September 29, 2025 Posted September 29, 2025 1 hour ago, Hmmm lies said: Well apparently the image originates from a comic someone drew, but at some point this character (don't even know her name lol) became a popular meme image thing in the transfem community. Oooooo Very wow 1
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