Bigmikey357 he/him Posted January 11, 2019 Posted January 11, 2019 Ok, so we know Hoid is probably immortal and quite difficult to kill. He's a repository for an enormous amount of knowledge and was present at the Shattering, something only 17 others (that we know of) can claim, and 6 of those are dead already. So only a very few things can kill him. The question I have is, can he be hurt? I ask because if someone were to capture him and attempt to torture him for information, how likely would that torture be of success? Can he be controlled by pain, forced through pain to give up his secrets? I realize that capture would be unlikely and that the vast majority of the inhabitants of the Cosmere would not know what they had even if they did catch him. But there's at least 2 secret societies on Roshar that know of him and at least some of his capabilities. The Ghostbloods in particular seem like a group that would make such an attempt. Their main stock in trade seems to be secrets and they would have no qualms at torture for information. Should we be worried? 1
Nathrangking he/him Posted January 11, 2019 Posted January 11, 2019 Unlikely considering that even the threat of a shardblade is not worrisome for him.
+ILuvHats he/him Posted January 11, 2019 Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) I think it depends how similar Hoid’s healing capabilities are to Feruchemical gold. I’m not sure if it’s a quirk of Feruchemy or a universal result of healing for long periods of time, but Miles is incapable of feeling pain in AoL. I think it’s implied this occurred because of the sheer number of wounds he’s suffered over the years. Hoid has lived a lot longer than Miles, though he hasn’t participated in violent confrontations as often as Miles did. Personally, I think that as long as Hoid isn’t repressing his healing, he can’t feel pain, though maybe he doesn’t feel pain when he’s repressing it either. After all, I don’t remember a mention of Hoid being in pain when he got punched in the OB epilogue. Somebody correct me if I’m wrong, though. Edit: Ninja’d by Nathrangking. Edited January 11, 2019 by ILuvHats 1
Nathrangking he/him Posted January 11, 2019 Posted January 11, 2019 @Voidus I accidentally double posted. Can you please remove the second post.
Fezzik Posted January 11, 2019 Posted January 11, 2019 All you would need to do is threaten him with an aluminum spike.
+Invocation Posted January 11, 2019 Posted January 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, John203 said: All you would need to do is threaten him with an aluminum spike. I don't know if that would even affect him, nor where you would have to spike him to get it to do what you want. He's not technically human anymore, per WOB, so he probably has different bindpoints. 1
Fezzik Posted January 11, 2019 Posted January 11, 2019 Aluminum spikes steal all powers, and the heart should be a universal bindpoint. 1
Thanatos Posted January 11, 2019 Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) Knowing Hoid he'd probably do something witty and charge you with a blanket and bury you under it then flactulate. Cant hurt you physically but.... Edited January 11, 2019 by Thanatos
+Invocation Posted January 11, 2019 Posted January 11, 2019 19 minutes ago, John203 said: Aluminum spikes steal all powers, and the heart should be a universal bindpoint. You'd think so, but this is Hoid we're talking about. Universal constants don't apply to him.
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