Ripheus23 Posted September 14, 2018 Posted September 14, 2018 At least, unless she first helped Honor and then switched sides [rid this forum of this post if this has been cited elsewhere]: Seonid If Cultivation and Honor were romantically involved, why did Cultivation not help Honor against Odium? Brandon Sanderson She did. source 1
CalaCrisp88 Posted September 14, 2018 Posted September 14, 2018 I'm not sure what you're trying to say by this post. Did you assume Cultivation was working against Honor or something?
Calderis he/him Posted September 14, 2018 Posted September 14, 2018 I thought that this bit from Wyndel was enough to guarantee that wasn't the case. Quote Wyndle moved along beside Lift. “Mother has given up on your kind. I can feel it. She doesn’t care any longer. Now that He’s gone . . .” Honor's death caused Cultivation's apparent withdrawal from humanity.
Iridium Savant he/him Posted September 14, 2018 Posted September 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, Calderis said: I thought that this bit from Wyndel was enough to guarantee that wasn't the case. Honor's death caused Cultivation's apparent withdrawal from humanity. "Apparent" being the key word here. I keep having the feeling (more accurately my own personal wish) that she is just performing a feint. She has seen Odium's shard vs shard fighting power up close and knows it will take more than just brute force to take him out. Keep in mind she cultivated Dalinar to specifically stop Odium's plan and make sure he wouldn't become Odium's champion. I think she is playing the long game and the 'apparent' withdrawal is just all part of the plan. (*Crosses fingers in hopes that there is at least one shard we get to see on screen being an actual good guy*)
Calderis he/him Posted September 14, 2018 Posted September 14, 2018 (edited) @Iridium Savant your preaching to the converted her. I don't think Wyndel is correct at all. Cultivation has her hands in everything. I think Dalinar was just the first, and both Lift and Taravangian are also her direct involvement in the old magic. Edit:fixed a really stupid mistake. Edited September 14, 2018 by Calderis
Ruin's Scariest Koloss Posted September 14, 2018 Posted September 14, 2018 @Calderis I'm tracking with you on Cultivation directly intervening with Dalinar and Taravangian, but how do you figure Odium into that?
Calderis he/him Posted September 14, 2018 Posted September 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ruin's Scariest Koloss said: @Calderis I'm tracking with you on Cultivation directly intervening with Dalinar and Taravangian, but how do you figure Odium into that? *facepalm* too many thoughts in my head at once. That was supposed to say Lift, and the wires crossed.
Ruin's Scariest Koloss Posted September 14, 2018 Posted September 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Calderis said: *facepalm* too many thoughts in my head at once. That was supposed to say Lift, and the wires crossed. Lol, that makes a lot more sense, but I am a little disappointed that this wasn't some spicy new theory that I hadn't heard yet
Ripheus23 Posted September 15, 2018 Author Posted September 15, 2018 22 hours ago, 8giraffe8 said: I'm not sure what you're trying to say by this post. Did you assume Cultivation was working against Honor or something? I believe I'd seen speculation to this effect.
Yata he/him Posted September 20, 2018 Posted September 20, 2018 @Calderis I think our brave cultivationspren have right. But in a terrible letheral way. Before Tanavast death, Cultivation and him cared about mortals and all. Now without him (maybe for the pain she suffered, maybe because he was the moral compass in the couple) she don't care of mortals anymore. But this doesn't change her attitude towards Odium and the needs of smashing him. She simply changed modus operandi and focus all his efforts to win the war with Odium.
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