Long Game 15: ...The Shards Themselves...

[Alvron]

...there's that.

Ah, right.  I'll just retract my vote on Wyrm.  I'm sure no ones seen it or will read too much into it.  Right?

[RippleGylf she/her]

Gylf stared at Cor Mordero, flabbergasted. Surely this must be some kind of cruel joke? She had heard how the last voyage of this kind ended, and the thought of it made her shiver. It had to be a joke, a morbid jest. Nothing to kill anyone over.

 

Edit: Ninja'd by Alvron. As she thought, Cor's statement was but a jocular notion. In her mind, however, such topics should be avoided, as far as humor goes. Better safe than sorry.

 

(trying to do this game entirely in RP format, just to see what it's like)

Edited November 3, 2015 by RippleGylf

[Guest]

Ah, right.  I'll just retract my vote on Wyrm.  I'm sure no ones seen it or will read too much into it.  Right?

OH! You were making a subtly ironic statement by making a meta-reference to a previously completed game where you were evil, and employed the very strategy of lynching the Captain on the first day, albeit in a more sneaky way near the culmination of the first day...so you didn't really intend to kill our Glorious Captain, you were just being humorous. Haha. Heehee. Ha. Alvron.

P.S. I think we can keep this between the two of us, but it would probably help if you removed the giant orange clock from your above post.

[Amanuensis he/him]

Alright so, since we've already gone through the whole what-do-we-do-about-the-HI discussion, I don't see much point in bringing it up again. However thereis something that I wanted to say last round that I never got to because we decided to end the game too early. Without further ado, @Uninvested Crewmembers. Do not tell anyone (or even imply) that you have no role. If the traitors catch wind of what players don't have roles they will not attack them, making our more useful roles like the life saving Elantrian or alignment scanning Kandra more susceptible to being attacked. It might sound harsh but it is much more beneficial for the loyalists in the long term if the Uninvested die in a player with an ability's stead, ESPECIALLY after Wyrm changed Forges to be only temporary.

 

I have work in 7 hours so I am heading to bed, but I just wanted to say that before anyone got any crazy ideas. Thank you and have a good night.

 

 

EDITED FOR JUSTIFICATION, CAUSE OCD

Edited November 4, 2015 by Adavantos

[Elithanathile he/him]

Yeah, Alvron. He was just asking for it, doing a lynch on Wyrm that fast. If he was a loyal crewmember, he would have no reason to, so currently he has huge amounts of suspicion against him.

[Alfa he/him]

A.L.F.A. stared at Gylf with eyes, that were wide as the purelake was before it dried out a century ago or so,

"You call this a godbeyonddamned joke? Really, if you call this a joke, you could be the joker"

EDIT: "She's talking about the guy who voted for the Captain", said somebody.

"Ouch. Sorry, Gylf." His bad memory would kill him one day "I am sorry. I was thought you meant the murdered guy was a cruel joke... that would be indeed very suspicious"

For some reason I thought, that Cor Mordero was the HI.

Cursing at himself because of his own sillyness, he looked around. Somehow everybody looked suspicious. "Well... i think I'll wait a while before i say anything silly again"

Edited November 3, 2015 by Alfa

[Alvron]

Alright so, since we've already gone through the whole what-do-we-do-about-the-HI discussion, I don't see much point in bringing it up again.

We should bring up the HI discussion again.  Due to the changes there is nothing we can do to stop the HI turning rogue.  Any Hemalurgist created will only last 2 cycles then revert back to what they were before.  So unless we have a forger constantly making new Hemalurgists each round the HI will turn on us.

 

Still I think it would be a good idea if the Hemalurgists get in contact with the HI once night starts so we at least have some idea how long we have, but only the Hemalurgists.  We don't want to give the traitors any extra information.

[RippleGylf she/her]

Gylf glared at A.L.F.A. "Really? Just because I point out the obvious, that Cor's statement is a contextually ironic joke, means that I must be the murderer? I have heard of cases where people have been executed for an innocent slip of the tongue, or the Ripple Effect, as some call it. Is this any different? If one takes Cor's words at face value, then certainly he is worthy of being executed. However, it is far more likely that he was feebly attempting at humor, rather than actually suggesting that we kill our noble commander. And yet, the one who you think needs executing is someone who is just trying to clarify the probable intent behind those words?"

 

Edit: Nodding, Gylf accepted A.L.F.A.'s apology. She could understand such miscommunication.

Edited November 3, 2015 by RippleGylf

[Clanky he/him]

@Alv: The problem with that Alv is that the forged roles disappear after they have been used once. So we can't even rely on the forgers to keep making even temporary hemallurgists. 

Edited November 3, 2015 by Clanky

[Alvron]

@Alv: The problem with that Alv is that the forged roles disappear after they have been used once. So we can't even rely on the forgers to keep making even temporary hemallurgists. 

Ah, thanks Clanky.  I knew I was forgetting something important.

[Elithanathile he/him]

Okay, so it looks like some people have taken their vote off of Alvron for now, saying it was a joke, but I think it was a bit too far for a joke, and right now, he is the biggest suspect around here. So I'm going to leave my vote there, and I hope that we can have a successful 1st day lynch this time. I wasn't sure about it last voyage, but I don't want the eliminators to sweep in at the end again, even if it's not the end of the game.

[little wilson she/her]

Okay, so it looks like some people have taken their vote off of Alvron for now, saying it was a joke, but I think it was a bit too far for a joke, and right now, he is the biggest suspect around here. So I'm going to leave my vote there, and I hope that we can have a successful 1st day lynch this time. I wasn't sure about it last voyage, but I don't want the eliminators to sweep in at the end again, even if it's not the end of the game.

 

That's not even a possibility.

The game continues until either all the Traitors are dead (minus the HI), or the Traitors (minus the HI) equal or outnumber the living loyal crewmembers.

 

It's not about lynching the captain anymore. It's really a normal elimination game. Heck, if we wanted to, we could choose not to lynch anyone today, and even if the eliminators came in like last time and tried to hammer, they still wouldn't win. All they'd do is reveal themselves. Note that I do not condone the view of not lynching someone today. On the contrary, I think we should. Right now, I currently have my eye on both Bridge Boy and Alvron. Alv, because before the game started, he mentioned that he thought the old eliminators would be killed swiftly this game, and I can't help but wonder if his vote on the captain was to make people think he wasn't an eliminator because obviously he wouldn't cast a vote like that right off the bat if he were. And Bridge Boy because he said that Alv's vote heaps huge amounts of suspicion on him, when really it's just a bit. Seems like an over-exaggeration. Not necessarily one inherent to an eliminator, but it's still suspicious.

 

That said, I'm going to refrain from voting right now simply because there's a lot of time left in the cycle and I don't particularly care to jump around with votes, nor do I wish to poke vote anyone. I just want discussion.

[The Cow he/him]

Before I start actually doing setspec, analysis, etc. scale of 1-10, how much roleplaying is advised? 1 is none, 10 is always in character all the time, in the same style as an RP -- be it first or third person.

[Elithanathile he/him]

I know that the eliminators can't sweep in for the victory, I'm saying that I don't want them to sweep in even for a kill, and while it would be hard for them to do it without being revealed, I'd still rather not take chances, and at least try and lynch somebody.

 

Edit: Hey, Cow, what I try and go for is an 8, mostly RP, but with some quick responses when I need to, but I can't seem to manage it, and am currently hovering between 1 and 4. If you feel like you can do the whole game in RP, then go ahead, but don't be so tied to it that you don't post, just because you can't think of a good way to put it. P.S. I like your signature. I described SE to someone almost exactly like that earlier.

Edited November 3, 2015 by Bridge Boy

[Mailliw73 he/him]

I'm of the same opinion as Wilson. I've also been looking at BB. But I also suspected him last time we ran this game and that didn't turn out accurate, so I'm going to hold off on a vote, but I'd like to hear from Kas, when he gets time, Burnt, and Lopen. I personally don't care too much if all the Hemalurgists report to the HI, but I think it's best if they do. The problem is that there very well could be a Traitor one.

[Elithanathile he/him]

There most likely is one, just because that seems like the kind of GM Wyrm is.

 

Also, I'm being suspected that fast?!?! I seem to have a talent for doing that. Those are my honest suspicions, and if I'm going to vote for someone, and I am on this first round, I want it to be someone that's done something suspicious, instead of just blindly voting for someone.

[Kasimir he/him]

It saves time if you lynch me now instead of after the game >>.

 

[Clanky he/him]

Before I start actually doing setspec, analysis, etc. scale of 1-10, how much roleplaying is advised? 1 is none, 10 is always in character all the time, in the same style as an RP -- be it first or third person.

There isn't really any set amount of RP here. Some people like to stay in character all game while others never do any RPing. Anything is acceptable and really only depends on the character. 

 

@Wyrm: When a player who has been forged dies do they show up with their original role shown or the forged role?

Edited November 3, 2015 by Clanky

[RippleGylf she/her]

Gylf watched the conversation surrounding James T. Slade (Bridge Boy) with interest.

"While I feel as though Mr. Slade here has a point about lynching based on some sort of evidence rather than nothing, he seems to be exaggerating the suspicion that Cor deserves. As far as I know, morbid humor is no basis for execution. In fact, Mr. Slade's actions seem to me to be the most suspicious at the moment, but I'm not about to go and execute him for it. What evidence can we truly draw from only a few hours of conversation?" 

[DeathClutch19 he/him]

There most likely is one, just because that seems like the kind of GM Wyrm is.

In LG15a there were no Traitorous Hemalurgists. This line of thought is... Illogical.

 

As the only proven innocent I trust zero members of my crew. In regards to Day One I support the Contribution Crusade. Regardless of alignment(Loyal/Traitor) if you are not contributing to the conversation you are not helping deduce who the Traitors may or may not be. We do not need you if you are a Loyal member. We need you even less if you are a Traitor. You are the logical choice to be lynched.

 

The faster people die on my ship, the faster I deduce who the Traitors are. I support a day one lynch. I do not expect the kandra to claim tomorrow so we will have almost an equal amount of evidence tomorrow as we do today. Except we will be down one more member. This member will be Loyal.

 

In the future because have nothing to hide I will provide you all with my suspicions, when I obtain them, on who I believe to be the most logical choice for Traitor. That is all.

 

END OF LINE.

Edited November 3, 2015 by DeathClutch19

[The Cow he/him]

I'm not very comfortable with this site yet, so I am going to just start out playing how I normally do. Maybe I'll pick up RPing as a habit later on when I have a better grasp on things.

Cor -- Alvron. I do not understand how anything he has done is suspicious. Would someone explain to me, exactly, what was suspicious?

[Alvron]

Right now, I currently have my eye on both Bridge Boy and Alvron. Alv, because before the game started, he mentioned that he thought the old eliminators would be killed swiftly this game, and I can't help but wonder if his vote on the captain was to make people think he wasn't an eliminator because obviously he wouldn't cast a vote like that right off the bat if he were. 

I am under no illusions.  I fully expect to be either killed or scanned within the first two cycles.  Having said that, hopefully the eliminators will leave me alone hoping that me surviving will make me suspicious enough for them to try and have me lynched when one of theirs is up for the chop.  And having said that all bets are now off.

Also, I would've done that vote no matter what side I was on.  It was too good an opportunity to pass up.

[Mailliw73 he/him]

I am under no illusions.  I fully expect to be either killed or scanned within the first two cycles.  Having said that, hopefully the eliminators will leave me alone hoping that me surviving will make me suspicious enough for them to try and have me lynched when one of theirs is up for the chop.  And having said that all bets are now off.

Also, I would've done that vote no matter what side I was on.  It was too good an opportunity to pass up.

I know you would've, which is why I don't find that suspicious. I expected that from someone.

[DeathClutch19 he/him]

 

Also, I would've done that vote no matter what side I was on.  It was too good an opportunity to pass up.

 

I had a sense of humor back when I was a human and I also had the urge to vote for Wyrm in the first post I was going to create regardless of alignment. This is not reasonable suspicion.

 

END OF LINE.

Edited November 3, 2015 by DeathClutch19

[Guest]

Wilson, I agree with your comments on Alvron, but I don't think we should necessarily assume that he did it from an Eliminator perspective. A villager is just as likely to do something that might draw duspicion away from them.

Bridge Boy, eh, maybe. I don't see it myself.

Kasimir, just posting an image? You usually post more relevant items along with your memes, and I would be loath to lose Kas!Analysis.

Edited November 4, 2015 by Guest