QF79 Cycle 2 - It's Treason, then!

[Doc12]

“Report,” said the Administrator, rubbing their temples. Two datapads lay on their desk. Before them was a large golden Tenasi in crimson tactical armor – Winnifred, the grizzled chief of the Diplomacy Security Force. Aire was present as well, from the strong smell of mint.

“I’ve prepared a list of suspects,” Aire said, “it’s been sent to your datapad. I didn’t get a good look at the intruder in the control booth, but it was a large biped, which rules several species out.”

“I have my own list,” Winnifred rumbled, gesturing to the second datapad. “There are several overlaps with Spymaster Aire’s, but I have focused on the perpetrators of the vandalization, which do not rule out non-biped species.”

“Your thoroughness is always appreciated, Chief,” said Aire. “May I ask about your progress on the human front?”

“We believe the human was not responsible for the terrorism, Spymaster Aire. Until we receive reports of attacks, they are relegated to a lower priority.”

“I appreciate your help, Chief Winnifred, but terrorism falls under my purview, yours is catching feral animals -”

The Administrator tuned them out. They held up both datapads, consolidated them into a single list. They raised an eyebrow and waved the datapad, cutting off his and Aire’s escalating argument.  “This list contains two taynix.” A suppressed snort came from Aire’s direction.

Winnifred did not smile. “Slugs are sentient, therefore capable of dissidence.”

The Administrator rubbed their forehead harder. “Aire?”

Aire took over smoothly. “Combining our lists, we have 12 suspects. For who could have attacked me: Azren, Varvax; Rane, Dione; Qian and Penguin, both Heklo; Nail, Burl. On suspicion of vandalism: Naux and Cryax, Kitsen; Quoth-Yithuquoth, Solquis; Kitar, UrDail; Zrraii, Resonant; …Smartslug and Goolius, Taynix.” She paused. “Chief Winnifred has already seen fit to detain all twelve. Yes, even the Taynix.”

The Administrator held up a finger. “The Taynix have names?”

“Apparently they named themselves.” Aire said, smelling of iron.

“Sentience, and therefore capacity for evil,” said the Chief smugly. 

Aire began to say something, then cut herself off, “How did you detain a Resonant?”

The Chief smiled. “We asked it politely to grow some crystals into the Station.” 

“...Strong initiative, Chief,” murmured the Administrator, “Although such hasty action may be construed as aggressive.”

“We have reports that the detainees have already started throwing accusations around and may become aggressive,” Aire said. “My recommendation is that they be released but put under surveillance.”

The Chief snorted. “And allow the hidden dissidents to commit further crimes?” 

“The citizens have rights, lest you forget, Chief Primary Intelligence, the remaining citizens are already in outrage - and what about the human-”

“Stop.” The Administrator rose. “Chief Winnifred, you have authority to detain them for a single night without charge. They must be released after.” 

The Chief saluted. Aire made a sound of protest.

“Aire,” the Administrator said, “I want you at the Station monitoring everything they say or do.”

Aire sighed. “...Yes, Administrator.”

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Qian the Heklo loved democracy. He loved the Superiority. But a guy can't deny that sometimes, to the outside observer, the Superiority could look like a 'xenophobic, (eventually) genocidal interstellar alien empire'! Not that Qian believed that, the Superiority was great! It was just a perception issue! And the great thing about the Superiority is that one could give voice to all kinds of opinions, right?

Right guys?

"It's Treason, then!" Yelled Penguin, another Heklo.

Chaos erupted.

Qian the Heklo had to be removed from the Security Station due to excessive threats of violence from the other suspects. Quite against his wishes, he was placed on a shuttle headed for a place where he would be safe, and could do no harm to anyone anymore. 

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Rane missed weather. Being on the Diplomacy was great and all, but they half-wished they were on Monrome with its wild and whirling storms. That was probably rightparent. Leftparent had stayed indoors their entire life. The air was so still here. 

Well, no, inside the shared room in the Security Station, the air did crackle like a storm. Guards had already come to remove Qian, but the tension hadn't left the room. How did they get themselves into this situation? They supposed this was it for this draft... Getting sent to the Diplomacy had seemed exciting and grand to both parents, but now they were under suspicion of terrorism, of all things. 

A figure settled next to them, a little too close for Rane's comfort. "Apologies, friend, but I like my spa-"

A knife thrust towards their ribs-

Rane screamed -

- and they were somewhere else. Their home on the Diplomacy, outside of the Security Station.

Safe! They were safe! They rejoiced! Also they apparently had some cytonic ability after all! That boded well for them as a draft!

Then realized they had now committed a jailbreak, which was an actual crime. That boded much less well. 

Oh stars. 

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You have all received a non-cytonic message!

Citezens of the Superiority! I would like to say a few words. We are stronger as a group than as individuals. These dissidents will fail if we stay united! To the dissidents, watch yourselves, you will be discovered and captured. As I am sure many of you are aware we working on finding the solution to our problems and we belive to have a starting point. The Citezen IcedOutPenguin is a Dissident and is not to be trusted.

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Qianweilian has been removed! They were a Loyal Citizen with cytonic sensing!

Twinstorm was attacked but survived!

Vote Count

Qianwellian (3): Myst, ___ (Mippo), Coco
DrakeMarshall (2): TwinStorm, Qianweilian
Myst (1): IcedOutPenguin
Verdance (1): Through the living Wahr
Wahr (1): DrakeMarshall

Player List:

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• @Myst - Naux, a dark red Kitsen. Probably an engineer.
• @Verdance - Goolius, a hyperslug.
• @coco.pudding - Azren, the Varvax HR IR employee.
• @TwinStorm - Rane, who seeks to be falling all the time.
• @___ - Cryax, a stellar Kitsen fighter pilot.
• @Through The Living Star - Kitar, a young UrDail medic with a disposition towards oversharing. 
• @Fizz9 - Nail, smashy guy.
• @Through the living Wahr - Zrraii, a Resonant monitoring life support.
• @Qianweilian - A Heklo with a name no one can pronounce. Loyal Citizen
• @DrakeMarshall
• @IcedOutPenguin
• @The Unknown Medallion - Smartslug, a smart slug.

There will be a vote for removal during this Cycle. There is no vote minimum, and a tied vote will result in a random choice between all tied players. In addition, there is a possibility for kill from the Dissidents to occur this Cycle. 

As a reminder, PMs can only be opened if you have access to Cytonic Communications. If you do, please submit the request in your GM PM and one of us will open the PM for you as soon as we see it. 

If you have any moderation concerns, do not hesitate to ask @Araris Valerian for help!

This Cycle will end at 7 PM CDT/ 8 PM EST on Sunday, May 10th.

Edited May 10 by Doc12

[Myst He/Him]

Hard clearing Twin.

Im gonna go look over D1 again with V!Qian in mind

[coco.pudding she/they]

Scud. Sorry, Qian. I probably should have changed my vote there : (

I’m not sure where the Penguin accusation is coming from. Afaik there’s so way to have been certain about something like that until getting a PM right? So I don’t know what to make of that.

7 minutes ago, Myst said:

Hard clearing Twin.

Any particular reason why or are we just taking your word for it?

[Myst He/Him]

1 minute ago, coco.pudding said:

Scud. Sorry, Qian. I probably should have changed my vote there : (

I’m not sure where the Penguin accusation is coming from. Afaik there’s so way to have been certain about something like that until getting a PM right? So I don’t know what to make of that.

Any particular reason why or are we just taking your word for it?

He was attacked by the NK? That means he’s not Elim? Because suiciding one of their own people is a terrible strategy

[coco.pudding she/they]

1 minute ago, Myst said:

He was attacked by the NK? That means he’s not Elim? Because suiciding one of their own people is a terrible strategy

Oh okay so that’s just me being dumb, sorry yall

anyway I wouldn’t say hard clear bc they would have known he had that ability if he was elim, but yeah he’s probably cleared.

[Myst He/Him]

1 minute ago, coco.pudding said:

Oh okay so that’s just me being dumb, sorry yall

anyway I wouldn’t say hard clear bc they would have known he had that ability if he was elim, but yeah he’s probably cleared.

And waste a fail-safe? That single ability changes Lylo and therefore the game

Edit: did anyone get anything useful from their cytonics? 

Edited May 10 by Myst

[coco.pudding she/they]

23 minutes ago, Myst said:

And waste a fail-safe? That single ability changes Lylo and therefore the game

Edit: did anyone get anything useful from their cytonics? 

Yeah, I guess that is true. I’m good with saying Twin is clear.

As for cytonics, I was inhibited, which is extremely rude. 

[Myst He/Him]

My stuff all went through, so not much for me to learn there

[coco.pudding she/they]

1 minute ago, Myst said:

My stuff all went through, so not much for me to learn there

Your stuff went through but you didn’t learn anything?

[Myst He/Him]

1 minute ago, coco.pudding said:

Your stuff went through but you didn’t learn anything?

That’s not the nature of the abilities I have. Not really much on the feedback other than that they happened 

[coco.pudding she/they]

2 minutes ago, Myst said:

That’s not the nature of the abilities I have. Not really much on the feedback other than that they happened 

Ah I see.

Anyway you got thoughts on Penguin?

[Myst He/Him]

Just now, coco.pudding said:

Ah I see.

Anyway you got thoughts on Penguin?

Don’t have any, and I’m not giving any credit to the write up message considering they spelled citizen wrong. And it’s probably just a joke anyways. All it tells me is who made it(or well, gives me a small group)

[StrikerEZ he/him]

Everyone say thank you to @Doc12 for dealing with the insanity that is these rules while I was frantically driving over an hour back home to be online for rollover. We got everything done and sent out in like 45 minutes despite me getting online a minute before rollover. And there was only one minor little oopsie. Go us!

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

4 hours ago, Through the living Wahr said:

Zrraii crystal grown face takes on an anoyed expression as the slug enters his Geode, and called him a human "excuse you, Does this look like a human to you" he asked through the virbrations of his crystal "I am a Resonant, a living Crystal and you compare me to a human, we have nothing in common" 

Thats fair, as long as it doesnt snowball into my death, I dont eant to die D1 in two games in a row

You get used to it

I had a long run of them, but they tend to balance out in the end

1 hour ago, Myst said:

Hard clearing Twin.

Im gonna go look over D1 again with V!Qian in mind

I wouldn't hard clear Twin, but definitely a non-Newtonian fluid clear

If an elim team actually WGGed d1, immense respect

[Fizz9]

GO @Doc12 AND @StrikerEZ! You guys are awesome!

 

 

So @IcedOutPenguin. Care to explain?

[Myst He/Him]

2 minutes ago, The Unknown Medallion said:

You get used to it

I had a long run of them, but they tend to balance out in the end

I wouldn't hard clear Twin, but definitely a non-Newtonian fluid clear

If an elim team actually WGGed d1, immense respect

If they did, that in itself(in my opinion) points to a very specific group of people as Elim. Namely Twin, Myself, and Drake.

And I’m not Elim, so even accounting for that and going to the next pick of Twin, Drake and TUM, that leaves a very imbalanced game of experience, which matters in a high power game.

But I’m not seeing anything that suggest this to be the case 

2 minutes ago, Fizz9 said:

GO @Doc12 AND @StrikerEZ! You guys are awesome!

 

 

So @IcedOutPenguin. Care to explain?

I see… so you made the write-up message. 

[Fizz9]

4 minutes ago, Myst said:

I see… so you made the write-up message. 

No, I just want to see what IcedOutPenguin does to defend himself.

[coco.pudding she/they]

3 minutes ago, Myst said:

And I’m not Elim, so even accounting for that and going to the next pick of Twin, Drake and TUM, that leaves a very imbalanced game of experience, which matters in a high power game.

In that case, it doesn’t even have to be all of them though. It could just be one or two people who bring up the idea and everyone else goes along with it, even if they’re a newer player.

I do agree that WGG in the first cycle is an insane move though.

Just now, Fizz9 said:

No, I just want to see what IcedOutPenguin does to defend himself.

You’re also the only one actually taking the accusation seriously.

[Myst He/Him]

2 minutes ago, Fizz9 said:

No, I just want to see what IcedOutPenguin does to defend himself.

Yeah, and so I think you made the anon post.

But there’s no reason to take this seriously. It gives no reasons, and is probably a joke

[IcedOutPenguin He/Him]

W cycle name

1 hour ago, Doc12 said:

Citezens of the Superiority! I would like to say a few words. We are stronger as a group than as individuals. These dissidents will fail if we stay united! To the dissidents, watch yourselves, you will be discovered and captured. As I am sure many of you are aware we working on finding the solution to our problems and we belive to have a starting point. The Citezen IcedOutPenguin is a Dissident and is not to be trusted.

HEY WHAT?! NONONONONONONONONO!!!

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First reactions aside, and having taken a break to play piano to calm my nerves (I AM STILL VERY ANGRY AND WILL FIND WHO SAID THIS), I am ready to analyze.

So, the first thing that I'm noticing is that this had to have been added before anyone was certain of anyone else's roles (idk if there are seekers in this game, there aren't right?), and still, even then, why would someone send this unless they a) knew my role (impossible this cycle(no seeker(pending))(all actions happened at roleover)), b) guessed, or c) is from the Dissidents trying to mislead us. 

Regardless, WHOEVER SENT THAT IS GOING TO DIE - I exaggerate, we here at the superiority are peaceful, and I will not kill anyone - DOESN'T MEAN I WONT WANT TO THOUGH!

[Myst He/Him]

43 minutes ago, coco.pudding said:

In that case, it doesn’t even have to be all of them though. It could just be one or two people who bring up the idea and everyone else goes along with it, even if they’re a newer player.

I do agree that WGG in the first cycle is an insane move though.

You’re also the only one actually taking the accusation seriously.

It doesn’t need to be all three, just two of those and a new-ish person is enough in a game like this. Knowing what abilities to use and when and on who is a skill that the other two players can help the newer player catch on to.

As such I’m going to disregard the possibility of E!Twin

[DrakeMarshall he/him]

It kinda feels like not a lot of people cared about the vote yesterday.

also I've been mindbladed so my vote won't count today or have I, maybe I'm doing a complicated bluff here

not like that'll stop me from solving  for now, consider my vote to be on Wahr in spirit.

Voting arbitrarily is fine imo but repeatedly going "it's RNG, I'm not responsible for the choice" feels... a bit less fine to me. Somehow I feel more fine with Coco doing it maybe because she moved to a serious vote very soon after. Also I am offended on a spiritual level that Wahr's response to my vote yesterday was basically "nobody's seriously going to exe me today so I don't care who you vote for" but maybe that's just me 

As for Twin well don't hardclear Twin as village for the rest of the game but also don't vote Twin out today occam's razor says Twin is probably village. Kinda agree with Myst that not many players would likely go for it, though I'm by no means an expert on everyone's playstyles here.

That said, if Twin is village which is probably the case, why'd the elims choose him as a target? Reading into it too far is probably a road to madness I mean I've definitely overanalyzed D1 kills before but I'm already mad so I still wonder. I don't think Twin was especially talkative. My best guess at the moment is the elim team subscribes to a low info sort of kill doctrine but it'll become more clear as we see more hits play out ig.

Whatever the case, I think we should probably try to vote earlier today. I mean I put off voting until pretty late yesterday so I'm not getting on anyone's case about something that I didn't also do, but. I think leaving it to the last second maybe made yesterday's vote not as useful.

[DrakeMarshall he/him]

final tally yesterday:

Qianwellian (3): Myst, ___ (Mippo), Coco
DrakeMarshall (2): TwinStorm, Qianweilian
Myst (1): IcedOutPenguin
Verdance (1): Through the living Wahr
Wahr (1): DrakeMarshall
Not Voting: Verdance, Star, Fizz, TUM

My personal credence is the elims wouldn't bunch up in one place. When there's no elims in danger, which I think there definitely wasn't yesterday, the default elim behavior is often to just distance, and voting in clear blocs is generally the opposite of that. Therefore, I predict probably not more than 1 elim on Qian, probably not more than 1 elim not voting. Side trains are a little more likely to contain elims because they don't interrupt the wagon on a villager while generally looking a little more helpful than abstaining from the vote entirely. If my train of thought is correct here that slightly points to (Penguin, Wahr)

[coco.pudding she/they]

47 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said:

final tally yesterday:

Qianwellian (3): Myst, ___ (Mippo), Coco
DrakeMarshall (2): TwinStorm, Qianweilian
Myst (1): IcedOutPenguin
Verdance (1): Through the living Wahr
Wahr (1): DrakeMarshall
Not Voting: Verdance, Star, Fizz, TUM

My personal credence is the elims wouldn't bunch up in one place. When there's no elims in danger, which I think there definitely wasn't yesterday, the default elim behavior is often to just distance, and voting in clear blocs is generally the opposite of that. Therefore, I predict probably not more than 1 elim on Qian, probably not more than 1 elim not voting. Side trains are a little more likely to contain elims because they don't interrupt the wagon on a villager while generally looking a little more helpful than abstaining from the vote entirely. If my train of thought is correct here that slightly points to (Penguin, Wahr)

It was definitely feeling concerning how little resistance there was by the end. If there was an actual secondary train I’d be inclined to soft clear them but since Qian’s vote happened right before rollover I don’t really feel like that’s a possibility. I doubt any of the elims voted for each other considering how the votes were sitting most of the day, but that doesn’t particularly rule anyone out (and is always a possibility). Agreed that probably one elim didn’t vote, and probably one of us on Qian is elim (although it’s entirely possible the elims just let that train run since there are so few votes on it)

How many elims are we thinking? I’ve been assuming 3 based on the number of players and past experiences.

Hm. I’m gonna throw out a poke on Star @Through The Living Star I feel like I didn’t see you much yesterday, what are you thinking about?

2 hours ago, IcedOutPenguin said:

So, the first thing that I'm noticing is that this had to have been added before anyone was certain of anyone else's roles (idk if there are seekers in this game, there aren't right?), and still, even then, why would someone send this unless they a) knew my role (impossible this cycle(no seeker(pending))(all actions happened at roleover)), b) guessed, or c) is from the Dissidents trying to mislead us. 

Yep, that’s exactly the issue. Whoever sent that message is likely an elim, I really can’t see a villager just throwing something like this out on only the second cycle. It just seems very counterproductive.

@Fizz9 do you have any defense other than what you said earlier? You’re the only one taking this accusation seriously, but it’s pretty obvious it’s faked, so why?

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

3 hours ago, Myst said:

If they did, that in itself(in my opinion) points to a very specific group of people as Elim. Namely Twin, Myself, and Drake.

And I’m not Elim, so even accounting for that and going to the next pick of Twin, Drake and TUM, that leaves a very imbalanced game of experience, which matters in a high power game.

But I’m not seeing anything that suggest this to be the case 

I see… so you made the write-up message. 

Me and Drake were exactly the people I was thinking of, yeah

Penguin maybe too

3 hours ago, coco.pudding said:

In that case, it doesn’t even have to be all of them though. It could just be one or two people who bring up the idea and everyone else goes along with it, even if they’re a newer player.

I do agree that WGG in the first cycle is an insane move though.

You’re also the only one actually taking the accusation seriously.

In my experience with gambits, they don't go through unless everyone is on board. A little bit of hesitance stonewalls them for some reason (I've tried to get my team to do WGGs so many times and I don't think we ever actually did one)

34 minutes ago, coco.pudding said:

Yep, that’s exactly the issue. Whoever sent that message is likely an elim, I really can’t see a villager just throwing something like this out on only the second cycle. It just seems very counterproductive.

I think its the opposite actually, probably a villager reaction testing. That would be a bizarre play for an elim to make