Nalthian Customs Official Posted October 25, 2025 Posted October 25, 2025 Koloss are created by using four iron spikes on a person, giving them tremendous amounts of strength. However, there are three other spikes that steal attributes: tin - senses, zinc - emotional fortitude, and copper - mental fortitude, memory, and intelligence. Assuming the spikes are created and prepared in whatever way that produces koloss with iron spikes, what sort of hemalurgic constructs would be created using four of the other attribute spikes? Copper: I'll start with copper, since I would imagine it would be a sort of paired metal to iron. Iron spikes increase strength at the cost of intelligence, so copper spikes would presumably do the opposite - increasing intelligence, memory, and mental fortitude at the cost of strength. A hemalurgic construct made with four copper spikes would have shriveled muscles, possibly even shrinking over time, but with a massively enhanced ability to think, reason, and remember. There would probably also be more resistant to shardic control than a koloss would be, since we know copper spikes offer that advantage with kandra. Tin: I have a hard time coming up with how the body would be twisted with four tin spikes. It may be the case that the twisting would be more internal, like the Inquisitors, so it would not be as visible externally. I imagine the result would be something like a allomantic tin savant, where the spiritweb is twisted to allow for greater sensory input. I have no idea whether they would be more resistant to extreme sensory inputs than a tin savant, but they would certainly have other negative effects if that was not one of them. Zinc: Zinc may be the hardest one of these to figure out. The only thing I can imagine for an ability would be an extreme resistance to shardic control, just like copper, but also emotional allomancy in general, since emotional fortitude would probably give them a greater resistance to having their emotions tampered with. Other than that, this hemalurgic construct would be rather limited, though the benefit to that might be less twisting of the body due to the spikes, much like tin might offer. Mixing and matching: Finally, we come to the possibility of mixing and matching these spikes to create something without extreme capacity in one area, but that is maybe a little more balanced. The first that came to mind was two iron spikes with two copper ones, sacrificing some of a koloss' strength for more intelligence to balance it out and use their strength in more creative ways. Using different parts of the spiritweb might result in less twisting too, giving them more of a normal appearance, but still having increased strength and intelligence. A fun thought experiment would be someone who has one of each spike, which in my mind would be something like a Scadrian Captain America (Captain Elendel?) Someone with boosted strength, senses, mental abilities, and a resistance to both shardic control and emotional allomancy. A little underwhelming compared to what else hemalurgy can grant a person, and especially compared to the abilities granted by the other invested arts, but it might be fun to see a modern-day hazekiller with these spikes going up against mistings, ferrings, and twinborn and having to be creative in how they outmatch each opponent. What does everyone think? Any more ideas for what someone with four tin or zinc spikes could be like? Is there anything you feel I got wrong? 5
Trusk'our he/him Posted October 25, 2025 Posted October 25, 2025 2 hours ago, Nalthian Customs Official said: A fun thought experiment would be someone who has one of each spike, which in my mind would be something like a Scadrian Captain America (Captain Elendel?) Someone with boosted strength, senses, mental abilities, and a resistance to both shardic control and emotional allomancy. A little underwhelming compared to what else hemalurgy can grant a person, and especially compared to the abilities granted by the other invested arts, but it might be fun to see a modern-day hazekiller with these spikes going up against mistings, ferrings, and twinborn and having to be creative in how they outmatch each opponent. Such a construct could also be interesting to splice into the general population, since their offspring- like Koloss-blooded- would probably have some edge over natural humans with little to no downsides. Mix in enough over time and now everyone in future generations can enjoy heightened strength, intellect, and health (okay, in reality pretty hard to do and very costly, but technically might be possible).
Nalthian Customs Official Posted October 25, 2025 Author Posted October 25, 2025 40 minutes ago, Trusk'our said: Such a construct could also be interesting to splice into the general population, since their offspring- like Koloss-blooded- would probably have some edge over natural humans with little to no downsides. Mix in enough over time and now everyone in future generations can enjoy heightened strength, intellect, and health (okay, in reality pretty hard to do and very costly, but technically might be possible). It's certainly possible, although presumably only Harmony would know if you need four of one kind of spike to pass the trait down and get something like a Koloss-blooded for offspring. On that topic, it will be interesting to see in Mistborn Eras 3 and 4, where presumably there have been several generations of mixing, how far Koloss-blooded have spread through the population and if that has resulted in a general boost in physical strength for the Scadrian population. Maybe it's something like having noble heritage if you're a skaa back pre-Catacendre, and it only lasts a few generations before getting too small to have any effect. 1
Treamayne Posted October 26, 2025 Posted October 26, 2025 8 hours ago, Nalthian Customs Official said: Koloss are created by using four iron spikes on a person, giving them tremendous amounts of strength. However, there are three other spikes that steal attributes: tin - senses, zinc - emotional fortitude, and copper - mental fortitude, memory, and intelligence. Assuming the spikes are created and prepared in whatever way that produces koloss with iron spikes, what sort of hemalurgic constructs would be created using four of the other attribute spikes? Previous discussion on related topics can be found here if you want to read them - example: On 5/15/2024 at 4:59 PM, Dragonheir said: Koloss cousins! Using the other three kandra blessings (tin, zinc, and copper), we can create new kinds of koloss-like creatures. They would have enhanced senses, emotional control, or intelligence. There will probably be side effects, such as a drop in other attributes, turning blue (or maybe a different color), and a physical increase in the effected trait. Hmm, does anybody know of somebody who turned blue and has a really massive brain? Anyway, I'm going to go on a really long tangent in which I try to predict the results of the spiking by comparing the side effects of the koloss transformation, which I will place in a spoiler box cause it might take a while to scroll past. Hope that helps
Nalthian Customs Official Posted October 26, 2025 Author Posted October 26, 2025 15 minutes ago, Treamayne said: Previous discussion on related topics can be found here if you want to read them - example: Hope that helps Ah, thank you very much for providing that. I looked to see if anyone had done a similar topic, but clearly I did not look closely enough. I hope I was at least able to add a new perspective on things, even if the ideas have already been introduced. 1
Treamayne Posted October 26, 2025 Posted October 26, 2025 5 minutes ago, Nalthian Customs Official said: Ah, thank you very much for providing that. I looked to see if anyone had done a similar topic, but clearly I did not look closely enough. I hope I was at least able to add a new perspective on things, even if the ideas have already been introduced. Well, it's an old enough topic that starting anew would be better than Necro-posting. I just wanted to make sure you havd a chance to read the previous chat on the topic. That said, the SHARDER FAQ has tips on searching the forums . . . . . . In this case - Koloss in Thread title, searching topics in Mistborn Forum and Cosmere Discussion And I had a leg-up since I remembered there was at least one topic on the subject to find.
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