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Could Kaladin resist The One Ring?


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Totally understand is this question isn't accepted because of its crossover nature, but, Kaladin Stormblessed has shown that his will is stronger even than a Heralds. Could he resist the temptation of The One Ring? Would he succumb? Would he throw it into the fire, or could he miraculously USE it and ACTUALLY dominate it?

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41 minutes ago, Yashino said:

Kaladin Stormblessed has shown that his will is stronger even than a Heralds

I'm not actually sure this has been demonstrated. the Heralds were tortured for hundreds of years BEFORE they gave up their honorblades, to say nothing of the following 4000. Kaladin hasn't gone through anything close to that.

to your question: personally, I think eventually he would succumb, the question is whether that would take long enough that he would still have the willpower to destroy it when the opportunity arose. and I think that question depends on how he sees it. Boromir saw it as a weapon that could be used in defense of his people, and if Kaladin took the same point of view, then I think he'd go the way of Boromir. but if he saw it for what it truly was - a tool of the enemy and one he couldn't control or truly use - then I think he could probably resist for a reasonable duration.

I think he'd take that second route. I think he'd recognize it for what it is, especially with people like Syl, Dalinar, and Wit to persuade him. and in that case I think he could resist it, probably for long enough to destroy it.

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3 hours ago, Yashino said:

Totally understand is this question isn't accepted because of its crossover nature, but, Kaladin Stormblessed has shown that his will is stronger even than a Heralds. Could he resist the temptation of The One Ring? Would he succumb? Would he throw it into the fire, or could he miraculously USE it and ACTUALLY dominate it?

Kaladin is Human, he would succumb. The main reason Hobbits had a resistance to the One Ring's influence was because there were no Rings of Power created to influence their race (3 Rings of Power for the Elves, 7 for the Dwarves, 9 for Men - 0 for Hobbits).

Now, Rlain. . . he would likely be able to resist.

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Comes down to context. If dropping a MacGuffin into the volcano is all it took to take down Odium, Kaladin would have done a stellar job. He's had to operate around Unmade or the partial corruption of Urithiru - though he did snap and came back anyway. Nothing suggests to me that he would be immune to its influence.

I don't think he could use the One Ring without it affecting him. With Kaladin, if there was a time that he needed invisibility for a tactical reason... he probably would use it. Considering he was ready to use a screaming Shardblade in WoR up until he found out that Shallan's Blade didn't scream. 

I'm guessing most of us would say that no, Kaladin doesn't seem likely to dominate the One Ring. Bullying forces of nature and incredible power into doing what he wants is Dalinar's wheelhouse. Blackthorn stomping Sauron? Seems reasonable. Dalinar seems like a very interesting candidate to be given access to the One Ring in nearly any phase of his life. The Ring's properties of dominion over other rings and races/nations uniquely parallels Dalinar's own conflict of choosing when and where to take control appropriately.

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31 minutes ago, Yashino said:

Totally understand is this question isn't accepted because of its crossover nature, but, Kaladin Stormblessed has shown that his will is stronger even than a Heralds. Could he resist the temptation of The One Ring? Would he succumb? Would he throw it into the fire, or could he miraculously USE it and ACTUALLY dominate it?

Not sure if it was intentional, but you made two of the same post. I’ve hidden one of them for you 🙂

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It is implied that no one including Sauron himself could truly resist the power of the Ring.

Yeah, a crackpot LOTR theory. Why do you think a one-time Maia as powerful as Sauron was so physically helpless by the time of the War of the Ring? Because the Ring had drained away almost all of his abilities, except those dedicated to getting back the Ring--not for any purpose, because the Ring had enthralled Sauron as much as any of its other victims.

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1 hour ago, Nitpicking said:

It is implied that no one including Sauron himself could truly resist the power of the Ring.

Yeah, a crackpot LOTR theory. Why do you think a one-time Maia as powerful as Sauron was so physically helpless by the time of the War of the Ring? Because the Ring had drained away almost all of his abilities, except those dedicated to getting back the Ring--not for any purpose, because the Ring had enthralled Sauron as much as any of its other victims.

Flowey could probably resist the ring.

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4 hours ago, Nitpicking said:

It is implied that no one including Sauron himself could truly resist the power of the Ring.

Yeah, a crackpot LOTR theory. Why do you think a one-time Maia as powerful as Sauron was so physically helpless by the time of the War of the Ring? Because the Ring had drained away almost all of his abilities, except those dedicated to getting back the Ring--not for any purpose, because the Ring had enthralled Sauron as much as any of its other victims.

What about Iluvatar?

or another god?

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9 hours ago, Nitpicking said:

Iluvatar is omnipotent. Note that even Gandalf didn't wan to take possession of the Ring, though.

He's not fully omnipotent, is he? (Its been at least 3 years since I read the silmarillion so excuse me if I'm wrong)

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On 9/16/2025 at 8:59 PM, Treamayne said:

Kaladin is Human, he would succumb. The main reason Hobbits had a resistance to the One Ring's influence was because there were no Rings of Power created to influence their race (3 Rings of Power for the Elves, 7 for the Dwarves, 9 for Men - 0 for Hobbits).

Now, Rlain. . . he would likely be able to resist.

You have to think though, that with the spiritweb changes that maybe he gets lenience in this matter.

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20 minutes ago, SpiritOfWrath said:

You have to think though, that with the spiritweb changes that maybe he gets lenience in this matter.

That's the problem with Cross-IP speculation (as described here). Then it would come down to where this takes place - in Middle Earth, Kaladin would have no defense. In the Cosmere, any sufficiently invested being would have an inherent defense, so the One Ring would be a bit like Nightblood's suicide Bond - able to negatively influence most normal people, but having little affect on most Invested beings. 

Quoted from the Jedi VS thread:

On 6/10/2022 at 1:20 AM, Treamayne said:

Nobody can say how the powers would interact in such an environment. Futuresight(FS)/Atium may play out how you thought on Page 1 (which is when I realized it was four pages and skipped to the end); but since Force FS has never had to deal with an opponent that can alter the future based on Fortune and Glimpses into the spiritual realm, it is just as likely that Force FS would fail to work or even cause damage to the Jedi trying to sense information from a realm to which they have no Connection and cannot possibly understand (Ref: the 10 seconds that Fuzz showed Kell Fortune that left him pained, gasping and unable to think).

Which is why speculation like this is useless, because it will always come down to:

  • Realm A - A wins
  • Realm B - B wins
  • Realm C - cannot be determined, so the thread will drag on in arguments and flame-wars as people just blindly try to "reason" a way to make their favorite the victor.
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On 9/20/2025 at 8:42 AM, Clarkmon22 said:

He's not fully omnipotent, is he? (Its been at least 3 years since I read the silmarillion so excuse me if I'm wrong)

Iluvatar is the Christian God, conceived of as omnipotent, yes.

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On 9/22/2025 at 8:23 AM, Duxredux said:

Comes down to context. If dropping a MacGuffin into the volcano is all it took to take down Odium, Kaladin would have done a stellar job. He's had to operate around Unmade or the partial corruption of Urithiru - though he did snap and came back anyway. Nothing suggests to me that he would be immune to its influence.

He snapped? Kaladin is an allomancer now?

 

Sorry, sorry.

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