Compounded Ascension?

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

In a previous thread, I discussed some nicrosil shenanigans. Essentially, we discovered a way to become a lerasium savant, which, as we know, makes you ascend to shardhood. My question is this: What happens after that? There can't be 2 preservations. They are the same shard. There can't be 2 of them! How does that happen? Or can it only happen after you splintered the original preservation? This is very confusing

[Quantus he/him]

38 minutes ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

In a previous thread, I discussed some nicrosil shenanigans. Essentially, we discovered a way to become a lerasium savant, which, as we know, makes you ascend to shardhood. My question is this: What happens after that? There can't be 2 preservations. They are the same shard. There can't be 2 of them! How does that happen? Or can it only happen after you splintered the original preservation? This is very confusing

Tug of War relative to who's Connection is stronger, who is most compatible with the Intent, probably other factors we dont know.   In the case of the Lord Ruler who Ascended by virtue of taking up a massive stash of Preservation's Investiture in the Cognitive Realm while Leras was still alive, he seems to have used up the Investiture  for specific planetary changes rather than make any direct play to wrest the power from Leras.  Or he tried and failed, maybe, I dont know how we'd be able to tell.  

[Treamayne]

54 minutes ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

In a previous thread, I discussed some nicrosil shenanigans. Essentially, we discovered a way to become a lerasium savant, which, as we know, makes you ascend to shardhood. My question is this: What happens after that? There can't be 2 preservations. They are the same shard. There can't be 2 of them! How does that happen? Or can it only happen after you splintered the original preservation? This is very confusing

I feel ike you missed the inherent sarcasm in Sanderson's reply. To Clarify - the WoB:

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Douglas

What about a lerasium savant? Or would that require so much lerasium that the person attempting it would ascend to become a new Shardholder?

Brandon Sanderson

Basically, this is what Ascension is.

17th Shard Forum Q&A (Sept. 27, 2012)

Brandon is not saying "A Lerasium Savant Ascends" - he is saying "you cannot become a Lerasium Savant without holding so much power that you would ascend" Which means, like Vin and Sazed - the Shard needs to have no Vessel, be seeking a Vessel and you have to Connect to all of it to claim the power (Vin - though breathing in all of the Mists until it burned her physical shell away / Sazed through connecting to the Nexus of Power dropped by Vin). WoB:

Spoiler

Kaimipono

Allomancy is fueled by Preservation's body? How exactly does that work? And how does that interact with Atium—it's fueled by both gods' bodies?

Brandon Sanderson

The powers of Ruin and Preservation are Shards of Adonalsium, pieces of the power of creation itself. Allomancy, Hemalurgy, Feruchemy are manifestations of this power in mortal form, the ability to touch the powers of creation and use them. These metallic powers are how people's physical forms interpret the use of the Shard, though it's not the only possible way they could be interpreted or used. It's what the genetics and Realmatic interactions of Scadrial allow for, and has to do with the Spiritual, the Cognitive, and the Physical Realms.

Condensed 'essence' of these godly powers can act as super-fuel for Allomancy, Feruchemy, or really any of the powers. The form of that super fuel is important. In liquid form it's most potent, in gas form it's able to fuel Allomancy as if working as a metal. In physical form it is rigid and does one specific thing. In the case of atium, it allows sight into the future. In the case of concentrated Preservation, it gives one a permanent connection to the mists and the powers of creation. (I.e., it makes them an Allomancer.)

So when a person is burning metals, they aren't using Preservation's body as a fuel so to speak—though they are tapping into the powers of creation just slightly. When Vin burns the mists, however, she'd doing just that—using the essence of Preservation, the Shard of Adonalsium itself—to fuel Allomancy. Doing this, however, rips 'troughs' through her body. It's like forcing far too much pressure through a very small, fragile hose. That much power eventually vaporizes the corporeal host, which is acting as the block and forcing the power into a single type of conduit (Allomancy) and frees it to be more expansive.

Hero of Ages Q&A - Time Waster's Guide (Oct. 15, 2008)

Kelsier is slightly different in that he only connected to part of the power, and only partially Ascended, by using the Ire Orb. 

Hope that helps

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

Thank you! I was very confused! That clears it all up!