Kaladin's Rock

[ShatteredDiamond She/Her]

“It began during my youth. With… a rock.”... Assuming this is a reference to Szeth's Oathstone... well, Kaladin has an unidentified rock in his pack.

Could something be going on here?

[FollowYourMuse she/her]

My thought was that this is referring to the flashback scene where he found a rock in the ground, and the actions his family took. 

[alder24]

31 minutes ago, Phendorana said:

“It began during my youth. With… a rock.”... Assuming this is a reference to Szeth's Oathstone... well, Kaladin has an unidentified rock in his pack.

Could something be going on here?

I'm certain this is a reference to Szeth's flashbacks, which were read by Brandon before. You can find them here if you're interested - flashback 1&2, flashback 3. Spoilers:

Spoiler

Rocks are holy in Shinovar and a place where they find a few of them will be taken over by the Stone Shamans. Szeth found a rock in his family's pasture which already had an uncovered rock and that meant it should be given to Stone Shamans.

[The Stick]

I wonder how the rock influenced all of this. The only thing off the top of my head is that Stone Shamanism was really Unmade worship the whole time, and there is an Unmade of stones. 

[CognitiveShadow he/him]

OK, so.

• Stones, Wind, and Night were the three forces, spren of Adonalsium?
• The Sibling was formed from the Stone, the sibling of the Wind and Night, about 6000 years ago
• The Nightwatcher came from the Night
• Stormfather came from the Wind (though the wind was 'so very different' when the Sibling was young), soon before the Sibling was formed
• BONDSMITHS USED TO BOND DIRECTLY TO THE 3 FORCES! Instead of the more modern spren
• What do we think the Night was? - 'Few liked her or even spoke over her, Cultivation replaced her with a being of some of the same essence. A new creature, unconnected to anyone's perception'... what does this mean? Does this mean that the Nightwatcher was formed by cultivation using the same essence of the Night who had left?
• What does it mean for the Night to 'leave'? Is this similar to the epigraphs for Wind and Truth that indicate the Wind will 'vanish'?

So, does this mean that Kaladin is going to become an OG bondsmith and bond the wind? and then step up and take over as Dalinar's champion after Dalinar ascends to Honor?

[Cocoa he/him]

On 10/14/2024 at 10:34 AM, CognitiveShadow said:

What do we think the Night was? - 'Few liked her or even spoke over her, Cultivation replaced her with a being of some of the same essence. A new creature, unconnected to anyone's perception'... what does this mean? Does this mean that the Nightwatcher was formed by cultivation using the same essence of the Night who had left?

I suspect that Night is something like, thought not exactly the same thing as, Midnight Aether, even without the use of the word "essence." However, this is based mostly on vibes and gut feeling rather than anything concrete I can point to.

[Treach]

I think the rock in his pack is the fossil Vasher showed him when he was explaining the nature of Cognitive Shadows, he actually mentions Szeth specifically in that conversation. But, who knows.

[Through the Living Shadow he/him]

On 10/15/2024 at 10:18 PM, Cocoa said:

I suspect that Night is something like, thought not exactly the same thing as, Midnight Aether, even without the use of the word "essence." However, this is based mostly on vibes and gut feeling rather than anything concrete I can point to.

Hey hey hey we have seen midnight aether twice in the story.