The Wandering Wizard Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 What do you think the newest legendaries are going to be? The ones from Pokemon Scarlet and Violet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomerang Guy Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 I have no clue 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wandering Wizard Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 They look like this 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustration Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 2 hours ago, The Storming Stormfather said: Lechonk So I'm not the only one who saw that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Storming Stormfather Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 16 minutes ago, Frustration said: So I'm not the only one who saw that. The whole Pokémon community is flipping out over "the next Bidoof", and I honestly approve. 56 minutes ago, The Wandering Wizard said: What do you think the newest legendaries are going to be? We have it from reputable sources that they'll be Fighting/Dragon and Electric/Dragon, which are both great typings. But then there are some people who think Koraidon and Moraidon are motorcycles. Yes, this is real. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Invocation Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 Honestly, I'm surprisingly okay with the one game being sci-fi-oriented-ish and the other being very much not that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomerang Guy Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 I just think it’s weird. Ima stick with Sinnoh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustration Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) So this is probably a stupid idea, but I'm too sleep-deprived to tell. What if Legendary/Mythical Pokemon got two abilities they could use at the same time? So Reshiram had both Turboblaze and levitate, and so forth. Now Trace and other abilities like it would only copy the first ability they had. So like this Spoiler So my main rule is that groups of Legendaries have to be similar power level, and that mythicals and box art legendaries can be more powerful than the rest of them. Moltres, Zapdos, Articuno Spoiler So keeping with the abilities I gave them earlier(Arid, Snowstorm, Thunderstorm) I think they have plenty of power right now, so Pressure makes a fine secondary ability Mewtwo Spoiler Pressure's great for a primary ability, but it could use something more for such a powerful pokemon, so I'm thinking Adaptability. Mew Spoiler Our first Mythical, and I think Protean would be very thematically fitting for Mew. Ho-oh and Lugia Spoiler Regenerator and Multiscale are both really good, and since both of these are already stall cornerstones, I think Pressure will complimant them nicely Enti Rioku Suicune Spoiler Regenerator is really powerful as is, so I think Pressure will do just fine Celebi Spoiler While speed boost is a really powerful ability, Celebi can time travel, and it is a Mythical with a pretty mediocre ability, so I think it works out. Kyogre Groudon Rayquaza Spoiler All of these mons are increadibly powerful, especially with mega-ray and the primals counted, Pressure is more than enough for them Regice Regirock Registeel Spoiler I'm thinking sturdy, maybe sheer force. Latios Latios Spoiler I'm thinking Unburden would work nicely with these two, while it makes their already high speed stats increadible, they are supposed to be fast. Deoxys Spoiler I gave all the Deoxys forms exept normal really powerful abilities earlier, so Pressure for all of them, except Normal, who can have Protean. Jirachi Spoiler I'm thinking either levitate, it's not much especially for a mythical, but that's really the only thing I can think of. Uxie Aself Mesprit Spoiler Making a parallel to Jirachi I'm thinking Levitate for these three, however since these aren't mythicals I think it works just fine Cresselia and Darkrai Spoiler I'm thinking Insomnia for Cresselia, and Prankster for Darkrai. It feels wrong to make them this imbalanced, but Darkrai is a mythical Heatran Spoiler I'm thinking either sturdy or sheer force Regigigas Spoiler Either Protean or Huge power Arceus Spoiler Wonderguard I'm thinking Trace would be a good ability. The only other thing I could see fitting is Serence Grace Manaphy and Phione Spoiler I think Swift Swim would be a good ability, especially since speed has been one of Manaphy's main drawbacks, requiring it's team to use stickyweb. Shaymin Spoiler I'm thinking either Solar Power or Chlorophyll Kyurem Zekrom Reshiram Spoiler I'm thinking Levitate for Reshiram and Zekrom, Kyurem could use Sheer Force, but I'm thinking it should go back to pressure for Black and white Kyurem That's all the time I have right now, I'll come back and add the rest later. Edited July 4, 2022 by Frustration 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NameIess Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 12 hours ago, Frustration said: So this is probably a stupid idea, but I'm too sleep-deprived to tell. What if Legendary/Mythical Pokemon got two abilities? So Reshiram had both Turboblaze and levitate, and so forth. They already did that, didn't they? Rider calyrex gets unnerve and chilling/grim neigh depending on whether it's shadow or ice rider Calyrex. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustration Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Nameless said: They already did that, didn't they? Rider calyrex gets unnerve and chilling/grim neigh depending on whether it's shadow or ice rider Calyrex. You're right there, wasn't even thinking about that at the time. Edited July 4, 2022 by Frustration 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Storming Stormfather Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 On 7/4/2022 at 0:36 AM, Frustration said: Making a parallel to Jirachi I'm thinking Levitate for these three, however since these aren't mythicals I think it works just fine The thing is, the Pixie Trio already has Levitate and having it twice does nothing to help them. I do like the idea of them having Trace, however. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustration Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 49 minutes ago, The Storming Stormfather said: The thing is, the Pixie Trio already has Levitate and having it twice does nothing to help them. I do like the idea of them having Trace, however. I ment Serence Grace, I'm dumb. I like Trace better though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustration Posted July 9, 2022 Report Share Posted July 9, 2022 (edited) Finishing out the rest of the mons Spoiler Cresselia Spoiler An ability that will automatically set up trick room. Darkrai Spoiler I'm thinking Intimidate Victini Spoiler Tinted lens. Increadibly powerful, but Victini is mythical, and the pokemon of victory, and I gave rain an increadible sweeper with swift swim Manaphy so I think it's only fair. Cobalion, Virizion, Terrakion Spoiler Defiant. Keldeo Spoiler Competitive. Also I'd switch Justified to a special attacking equivelent. Tornadus, Thunderus, Landorus, Enamorus Spoiler The Incarnate forms all have secondary abilities I think fit them just fine, so they can just use both. The Therian forms however need an additional ability. I'm thinking Aerilate for Tornadus, Gavanize for Thunderus, Pixilate for Enamorus, and a ground type version for Landorus. Meloetta Spoiler An ability that gives a 50% damage boost to all sound based moves Genesect Spoiler Levitate Xerneas, Yveltal, Zygarde Spoiler These are all really good mons already, so I'm just going to say Pressure. Except Zyguard, who I'm going to give both Power Construct and Aura Break. Diancie Spoiler Prism armor Hoopa Spoiler Quick Draw Volcanion Spoiler Flash Fire. This gives it two immunities, two quad resists and two normal resists with three weaknesses I'm fully expecting it to be a stall cornerstone. Type: Null, Silvally Spoiler Adaptability Tapu Koko, Tapu Lele, Tapu Bulu, Tapu Fini Spoiler Volt absorb - Koko, Water absorb - Fini, Grass type absorb for Bulu, and phycic type for Lele. Cosmog, Cosmoem, Solgaleo, Lunala Spoiler Levitate for all of them. I'm thinking about switching Solgaleo's regular ability to make it summon permenant sun, it seems weird to me that the Sun pokemon doesn't do that, but I can't think of a way to pair that with Lunala yet. Necrozma, Dusk Mane, Dawn Wings, Ultra Necrozma Spoiler Pressure Magearna Spoiler Some varient of motor drive that still takes damage Marshadow Spoiler Unseen Fist Zeraora Spoiler Replace Volt Absorb with Motor Drive And give Zeraora Technician Meltan, Melmetal Spoiler Steelworker Zacian, Zamazenta Spoiler I still don't understand why Zacian is fairy type. It really should be fighting. Anyway these guys can have Pressure, Zacian is powerful enough as is. Eternatus Spoiler Levitate Kubfu, Urshifu Spoiler Either Tough Claws or Long Reach. I'm not sure which one. Regieleki Regidrago Spoiler Sheer Force, or if the trainer wants Sturdy Glastrier, Spectrier, Calyrex, Spoiler Ice and Shadow rider remain the same Calyrex will get pressure Glastrier will get Slush Rush Spectrier will get something to boost its speed in phycic terrain. Zarude Spoiler Prankster I probably made something increadibly broken in there so feel free to fix it. Edited July 9, 2022 by Frustration 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NameIess Posted July 9, 2022 Report Share Posted July 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Frustration said: Finishing out the rest of the mons Reveal hidden contents Cresselia Reveal hidden contents An ability that will automatically set up trick room. Darkrai Reveal hidden contents I'm thinking Intimidate Victini Reveal hidden contents Tinted lens. Increadibly powerful, but Victini is mythical, and the pokemon of victory, and I gave rain an increadible sweeper with swift swim Manaphy so I think it's only fair. Cobalion, Virizion, Terrakion Reveal hidden contents Defiant. Keldeo Reveal hidden contents Competitive. Also I'd switch Justified to a special attacking equivelent. Tornadus, Thunderus, Landorus, Enamorus Reveal hidden contents The Incarnate forms all have secondary abilities I think fit them just fine, so they can just use both. The Therian forms however need an additional ability. I'm thinking Aerilate for Tornadus, Gavanize for Thunderus, Pixilate for Enamorus, and a ground type version for Landorus. Meloetta Reveal hidden contents An ability that gives a 50% damage boost to all sound based moves Genesect Reveal hidden contents Levitate Xerneas, Yveltal, Zygarde Reveal hidden contents These are all really good mons already, so I'm just going to say Pressure. Except Zyguard, who I'm going to give both Power Construct and Aura Break. Diancie Reveal hidden contents Prism armor Hoopa Reveal hidden contents Quick Draw Volcanion Reveal hidden contents Flash Fire. This gives it two immunities, two quad resists and two normal resists with three weaknesses I'm fully expecting it to be a stall cornerstone. Type: Null, Silvally Reveal hidden contents Adaptability Tapu Koko, Tapu Lele, Tapu Bulu, Tapu Fini Reveal hidden contents Volt absorb - Koko, Water absorb - Fini, Grass type absorb for Bulu, and phycic type for Lele. Cosmog, Cosmoem, Solgaleo, Lunala Reveal hidden contents Levitate for all of them. I'm thinking about switching Solgaleo's regular ability to make it summon permenant sun, it seems weird to me that the Sun pokemon doesn't do that, but I can't think of a way to pair that with Lunala yet. Necrozma, Dusk Mane, Dawn Wings, Ultra Necrozma Reveal hidden contents Pressure Magearna Reveal hidden contents Some varient of motor drive that still takes damage Marshadow Reveal hidden contents Unseen Fist Zeraora Reveal hidden contents Replace Volt Absorb with Motor Drive And give Zeraora Technician Meltan, Melmetal Reveal hidden contents Steelworker Zacian, Zamazenta Reveal hidden contents I still don't understand why Zacian is fairy type. It really should be fighting. Anyway these guys can have Pressure, Zacian is powerful enough as is. Eternatus Reveal hidden contents Levitate Kubfu, Urshifu Reveal hidden contents Either Tough Claws or Long Reach. I'm not sure which one. Regieleki Regidrago Reveal hidden contents Sheer Force, or if the trainer wants Sturdy Glastrier, Spectrier, Calyrex, Reveal hidden contents Ice and Shadow rider remain the same Calyrex will get pressure Glastrier will get Slush Rush Spectrier will get something to boost its speed in phycic terrain. Zarude Reveal hidden contents Prankster I probably made something increadibly broken in there so feel free to fix it. Let me get this straight: you want to give all these Pokémon these abilities in addition to their old ones? I don’t think the impact on competitive will be very good, unless you really hate using legendaries anywhere besides Ubers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustration Posted July 9, 2022 Report Share Posted July 9, 2022 21 minutes ago, Nameless said: Let me get this straight: you want to give all these Pokémon these abilities in addition to their old ones? I don’t think the impact on competitive will be very good, unless you really hate using legendaries anywhere besides Ubers. Part of my goal was to send all of them to Ubers, or at least very high tier OU. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NameIess Posted July 9, 2022 Report Share Posted July 9, 2022 13 minutes ago, Frustration said: Part of my goal was to send all of them to Ubers, or at least very high tier OU. But why? I understand some legendaries like Regigigas that are super weak and need a buff, but a lot of them are really strong already. Putting every legendary in a tier of their own that very few if any non-legendaries can compete with isn’t going to make Pokémon a better game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustration Posted July 9, 2022 Report Share Posted July 9, 2022 16 minutes ago, Nameless said: But why? Two main reasons One it makes it easier to define Legendaries, because right now it's more of a "They say it's a Legendary" than anything else. Now it can be "If it has two abilities it's a Ledgendary, and if the Legendary comes from an event it's a Mythical." Second is that if the lore says that they are really strong they had better live up to it. 24 minutes ago, Nameless said: I understand some legendaries like Regigigas that are super weak and need a buff, but a lot of them are really strong already. And the most broken of them have received the weakest abilities. The only ones who are already strong and get powerful abilities on top of that either thematically fit, or need them to be with the rest of their trio/duo/whatever. 26 minutes ago, Nameless said: Putting every legendary in a tier of their own that very few if any non-legendaries can compete with isn’t going to make Pokémon a better game. But it won't make it fundementally worse either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Storming Stormfather Posted July 9, 2022 Report Share Posted July 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Frustration said: Tinted lens. Increadibly powerful, but Victini is mythical, and the pokemon of victory, and I gave rain an increadible sweeper with swift swim Manaphy so I think it's only fair. The main tier I play is OU and this invalidates Tyranitar (my fav Victini check) as a V-Create switchin. This is terrifying to think about. 3 hours ago, Frustration said: give Zeraora Technician I only have one problem with this, Zera has almost no good moves to be boosted by Technician. It has Fake Out, Electro Web (this is a Special move) and Power-Up Punch. That's it, unless you want moves like Fury Swipes, Quick Attack or Shock Wave. Honestly though, I'd still run Zera as it's run now, because it will always hit harder. 3 hours ago, Frustration said: Flash Fire. This gives it two immunities, two quad resists and two normal resists with three weaknesses I'm fully expecting it to be a stall cornerstone. I'm fine with this, but I don't think it'll be good on stall, having no recovery and all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustration Posted July 9, 2022 Report Share Posted July 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Storming Stormfather said: I'm fine with this, but I don't think it'll be good on stall, having no recovery and all. Does it not? Okay no it doesn't. Doesn't even get sleep talk. 7 minutes ago, The Storming Stormfather said: I only have one problem with this, Zera has almost no good moves to be boosted by Technician. It has Fake Out, Electro Web (this is a Special move) and Power-Up Punch. That's it, unless you want moves like Fury Swipes, Quick Attack or Shock Wave. Honestly though, I'd still run Zera as it's run now, because it will always hit harder. That's true, but base 90 Power-Up Punch isn't bad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Storming Stormfather Posted July 9, 2022 Report Share Posted July 9, 2022 55 minutes ago, Frustration said: That's true, but base 90 Power-Up Punch isn't bad. Except that it's only base 60 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustration Posted July 9, 2022 Report Share Posted July 9, 2022 1 minute ago, The Storming Stormfather said: Except that it's only base 60 60 x 1.5 is 90. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Storming Stormfather Posted July 9, 2022 Report Share Posted July 9, 2022 33 minutes ago, Frustration said: 60 x 1.5 is 90. Oh my bad, Power-Up Punch is base 40 before the Technician boost, so base 60 is it after the boost. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustration Posted August 4, 2022 Report Share Posted August 4, 2022 So. Terastalize. Thoughts? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That1Cellist Posted August 4, 2022 Report Share Posted August 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Frustration said: So. Terastalize. Thoughts? Like mega evolution, but worse. I do like the implications for the competitive scene of having multiple types you can Terastilize into. It's like having item or moveset mix-ups to mess with your opponents, but on a larger scale. Besides that, not really a fan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Storming Stormfather Posted August 4, 2022 Report Share Posted August 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Frustration said: So. Terastalize. Thoughts? I don't have enough experience or knowledge to form an accurate opinion on it. However, it looks really cool and honestly terrifying for Competitive. Also, MY BOI HARIYAMA IS BACK LETS FLIPPIN GOOOO!!! Also Mareep. I love Mareep. Who wouldn't, it's a sheep. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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