+Oltux72 Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) I am channeling my inner Jasnah and saying the unthinkable. It was necessary and therefore a good thing. What was the alternative? A continous Desolation? Mankind would have lost and become enslaved, possibly extinct. Yet let's look at the morals of this act. They abandoned Taln. And they did not obtain prior permission. But, and that needs to be made clear, they did not force it upon him. He could have yielded. So do we seriously want to argue that the Oathpact itself, which meant letting a small group bear the burden for all eternity was acceptable but letting one bear it alone for as long as he chose was utterly depraved? I think not. Who was the true villain of Stormlight Archive? I am going to be blunt: Honor The Desolations were planned for. I a sorry, but the Heralds are just too well equipped for war. Beyond their superpowers, they are even speaking the language of the time they are returning to. They were meant to be leaders and generals. I am sorry, but Honor planned this. He plunged a whole planetary system into eternal wars for his own goals and in contrast to Odium, he did not admit his own goals. He deserved his ultimate demise. Edited July 23, 2021 by Oltux72 typo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halyo_Alex Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 I do agree that it seems a little too naive of Honor to truly expect the Heralds to never break their word and let Odium's forces back out of Braize. But maybe it's a case of "a lock with no key is no lock at all" and so there MUST be some condition to unlock Odium's forces, or else Honor could not enforce the binding. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NameIess Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 27 minutes ago, Halyo_Alex said: But maybe it's a case of "a lock with no key is no lock at all" and so there MUST be some condition to unlock Odium's forces, or else Honor could not enforce the binding. Maybe Honor had to have a way out, making the oathpact a matter of mortals, or else Odium could simply brute force his way through it? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Oltux72 Posted July 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 23 minutes ago, Halyo_Alex said: I do agree that it seems a little too naive of Honor to truly expect the Heralds to never break their word and let Odium's forces back out of Braize. But maybe it's a case of "a lock with no key is no lock at all" and so there MUST be some condition to unlock Odium's forces, or else Honor could not enforce the binding. The Honorblades are weapons The Heralds got Surges from their Blades They were provided new bodies for each return Those bodies were very good bodies with superhuman abilities so useful in combat The Heralds get supplied with the current language upon their return (Taln speaks contemporary Alethi) They get a convinient head start to form and train armies in each Desolation The Dawnshards were available to them, at least for some time What does it tell you about the planer if what is called a backup plan for an eventuality is better thought out, better prepared and works better than the primary plan? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NameIess Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 23 minutes ago, Oltux72 said: The Honorblades are weapons The Heralds got Surges from their Blades They were provided new bodies for each return Those bodies were very good bodies with superhuman abilities so useful in combat The Heralds get supplied with the current language upon their return (Taln speaks contemporary Alethi) They get a convinient head start to form and train armies in each Desolation The Dawnshards were available to them, at least for some time What does it tell you about the planer if what is called a backup plan for an eventuality is better thought out, better prepared and works better than the primary plan? The heralds had to fight the fused, and they needed to be immortal. The other things could have been implemented by Honor after the first desolation started, or maybe by Ishar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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