+Oltux72 Posted June 18, 2021 Report Share Posted June 18, 2021 I hope the title is so generic that it should be no spoiler. Anyway, the reference should be clear in its murderous application. But why did it actually work? The Sand stores Investiture, which has to come from somewhere. It means that Spren bleed a bit of Investiture. Them being made of Investiture that may not be so much of a surprise. However, it raises an important question. Why don't Spren vanish over time? Cognitive Shadows do so, unless special measures are taken. So Spren must have at least a small source of Investiture. Considering this, it seems to me that the ability of te Stormfather and The Sibling to generate Investiture is not peculiar to them, it is just many orders of magnitude larger. How is this testable? It would be difficult, but in principle a talented Seeker should sense Spren, just as Vin sensed the Mist Spirit. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustration Posted June 18, 2021 Report Share Posted June 18, 2021 I would think that the Highstomr renews them, given that the ones in the CR glow afterwards, and Syl's interleud. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspiring Writer Posted June 18, 2021 Report Share Posted June 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Oltux72 said: I hope the title is so generic that it should be no spoiler. Anyway, the reference should be clear in its murderous application. But why did it actually work? The Sand stores Investiture, which has to come from somewhere. It means that Spren bleed a bit of Investiture. Them being made of Investiture that may not be so much of a surprise. However, it raises an important question. Why don't Spren vanish over time? Cognitive Shadows do so, unless special measures are taken. So Spren must have at least a small source of Investiture. Considering this, it seems to me that the ability of te Stormfather and The Sibling to generate Investiture is not peculiar to them, it is just many orders of magnitude larger. How is this testable? It would be difficult, but in principle a talented Seeker should sense Spren, just as Vin sensed the Mist Spirit. Not necessarily. The forms they have are made of investiture, but they don't have to be leaking. It's possible to make gemstone that can hold stormlight indefinitely, so the spren could be like that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MistMage Posted June 19, 2021 Report Share Posted June 19, 2021 Doesn't the spren bond with the humans hold them in place in the physical realm? that's why they don't disappear. The lesser spren come and go as some emotion pulls them in briefly 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Oltux72 Posted June 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2021 6 hours ago, Aspiring Writer said: Not necessarily. The forms they have are made of investiture, but they don't have to be leaking. It's possible to make gemstone that can hold stormlight indefinitely, so the spren could be like that. But then what makes the black White Sand white again? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Bzhydack Posted June 19, 2021 Report Share Posted June 19, 2021 10 hours ago, Frustration said: I would think that the Highstomr renews them, given that the ones in the CR glow afterwards, and Syl's interleud. This. Weve even seen this, Spren get a bit more vital during and right after Highstorms. There is also possibility that Sand (or, being more specific, Sand Microbs) activly drain Investiture from envirnoment. And this would make them somewhat simmilar to Leecher. Quote Calamity Austin signing (Feb. 25, 2016) #4 Share Copy Play/Pause Questioner If you were a Leecher, could you destroy a Shardblade? Brandon Sanderson I'm going to RAFO that for now, let's just say that it would be incredibly difficult if it were possible, and I'm not going to even say if it is. But that kind of power... Questioner Let's just say they were burning duralumin as well. Brandon Sanderson Let's just say that the Investiture in a Shardblade is much greater than your average Allomancer, but... This type of thing is not unheard of in the Cosmere. The larkin, the Leechers, and Nightblood all have a similar sort of thing going on. Destroying a Shardblade would be really hard. And Investiture resists other forms of Investiture, so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honorless Posted June 19, 2021 Report Share Posted June 19, 2021 Take a look at these: Quote Alteroden With Stormlight, the better the gem is cut, the less Stormlight it leaks, and the longer it holds its charge. If a gem was perfectly cut, on a molecular scale, would it leak Stormlight at all? Brandon Sanderson In a theoretical flawless gem, then no it would not. Alteroden Would it actually give off light? Brandon Sanderson [...] Theoretically no it would not, but it's not what you're thinking... Alteroden No no no, that’s not what I’m thinking, I figured that’s something totally different. Brandon Sanderson Well, actually, it probably would still give off light, because it's drawing out of the Spiritual Realm. So I’d say it still lights, but it doesn't leak. The leaking is not where the illumination is coming from. The illumination is coming from a direct... It's basically a light bulb screwed into the Spiritual Realm. Shadows of Self Chicago signing (Oct. 12, 2015) Quote “I couldn’t get Lifelight and Stormlight to recombine, but I don’t know if this counts as truly splitting them apart—as I’ve only split their radiation, not the pooled Light itself.” Quote swieczq Would someone with enough knowledge be able to use Autonomy’s Investiture if Taldain’s star was seen from his world? Brandon Sanderson So I’m on a world and I see Taldain’s star, what you're asking if someone could use the Investiture? Oh, OK I see. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. That’s good! You stumped me. I haven’t gotten that question before. I would say yes, if the light particles are reaching you. I mean technically you could use the light from one of those stars to power a solar sail so… Kraków signing (March 21, 2017) It's possible Investiture in general and/or all Invested objects give off slight Investiture radiation to some degree, which a very Investiture sensitive device or Invested Art could pick up on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Oltux72 Posted June 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2021 12 hours ago, Frustration said: I would think that the Highstomr renews them, given that the ones in the CR glow afterwards, and Syl's interleud. So a spren trapped in an aluminium box underground will dissolve? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Bzhydack Posted June 19, 2021 Report Share Posted June 19, 2021 4 hours ago, Oltux72 said: So a spren trapped in an aluminium box underground will dissolve? Probably this would take something like 1000years or more, but maybe it is possible. Can someone ask Brandon about it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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