Chinkoln Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 How big are the ghost bloods? Mraize said they are most powerful organization in the cosmere, implying that they are immense. Mraize also gives us a chain of command. Mraize -> Iyatil -> Thaidakar This either means that Mraize is very high up in the Ghostbloods, or they aren’t that big. Which is it? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bejarden Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 It’s more like Thaidakar<his lieutenants (his crew)<then his crews crew So Iyatil is probably in charge of Roshar with Mraize doing day to day ops With other “crews” on all the other worlds And Thaidakar oversees all the crews It was my impression that they were very big 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustration Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 Thaidakar is overconfident, 17th shard has them outclassed, the IRE has had centuries of a head start, etc. There is no feasable wya they are the most powerful in only three-hundred years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScadrianTank Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 7 hours ago, Chinkoln said: How big are the ghost bloods? Mraize said they are most powerful organization in the cosmere, implying that they are immense. Mraize also gives us a chain of command. I assume that they are not necessarily large in numbers, but the organization has a larger reach. Where the Ire rely on their knowledge of realmatics and Elantrian magic, Thaidakar doesn't rely only on the Metalic Arts, preferring instead to work with skilled natives from the planets he's interested in. Maybe thirty to fifty low-level operatives per Shardworld? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordFlea Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Frustration said: Thaidakar is overconfident, 17th shard has them outclassed, the IRE has had centuries of a head start, etc. There is no feasable wya they are the most powerful in only three-hundred years. This is Kelsier we are talking about. Look at what he did with a few years with his mistborn powers. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honorless Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 The Ghostbloods managed to reach Yolen in record time, which Khriss struggled to do/is struggling with?. So definitely a lot of reach. They also managed to get an Aviar while Khriss and scholars from Silverlight could not survive Patji. The Ire are definitely well-entrenched on Roshar, near Threnody. Their knowledge of Shards is also pretty good. The Seventeenth Shard also seems pretty powerful and big, but apparently the Ghostbloods poach members from them. The Ghostbloods are definitely a powerful worldhopper organization, comparable to the other big names. Given how well-known the Ghostbloods were to freelance informants and how deep their reach was, I think it's pretty safe to say that they've got a lot of members. Though possibly not as many Invested members as some others if they were recruiting low level informants native to the Shardworld. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Child of Hodor Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 11 hours ago, Bejardin1250 said: It’s more like Thaidakar<his lieutenants (his crew)<then his crews crew So Iyatil is probably in charge of Roshar with Mraize doing day to day ops With other “crews” on all the other worlds And Thaidakar oversees all the crews It was my impression that they were very big Yeah, that's basically my take on their structure. Iyatil is an upper echelon member of the Ghostbloods, she's training Mraize to take charge of the Roshar branch office of the company. Mraize calls her his "babsk" which is what Rysn calls her mentor. Mraize runs the meetings and the day to day, if he needs correcting or instruction Iyatil does it privately so as not to undermine Mraize in front of everyone. Iyatil will eventually move on to wherever she is needed next leaving Mraize in charge. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinity Sliver Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Honorless said: The Ghostbloods managed to reach Yolen in record time, which Khriss struggled to do/is struggling with?. So definitely a lot of reach. They also managed to get an Aviar while Khriss and scholars from Silverlight could not survive Patji. The Ire are definitely well-entrenched on Roshar, near Threnody. Their knowledge of Shards is also pretty good. The Seventeenth Shard also seems pretty powerful and big, but apparently the Ghostbloods poach members from them. The Ghostbloods are definitely a powerful worldhopper organization, comparable to the other big names. ohhh,we know the Ghostbloods have reached Yolen? Khriss and others couldnt survive on Patji? Ghostbloods poach members from the 17th Shard? So many questions! Tune in next time on the next episode of DragonBall Z 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honorless Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 15 minutes ago, Infinitysliver said: ohhh, we know the Ghostbloods have reached Yolen? It's from Mraize's collection: Quote Other curiosities baffled her. A vial of pale sand. A couple of thick hairpins. A lock of golden hair. the branch of a tree with writing on it she couldn't read. A silver knife. An odd flower preserved in some kind of solution. ... That chunk of pale pink crystal looked like it might be some kind of gemstone, but why was it so delicate? Bits of it had flaked off in its case, as if simply setting it down had almost crushed it. We couldn't figure out where the branch was from, so we got a WoB: Quote Questioner [Mraize's] cosmere treasure room had a white tree branch-like thing, is that the bones from Sel? Brandon Sanderson It is not from Sel, it's from Yolen. Shadows of Self London UK signing (Oct. 19, 2015) Quote Khriss and others couldnt survive on Patji? Yup, we got it from the Arcanum Unbounded. All expeditions from Silverlight that ventured into Patji did not return. Quote Ghostbloods poach members from the 17th Shard? Quote KING What would it take for a member of the Seventeenth Shard Shard to convert over to a member of the Ghostbloods? Brandon Sanderson Oh, the Ghostbloods would actively recruit from them. So, I think it would not be terribly difficult. It 's gonna depend on which kind of Seventeenth Sharder. Because there are a lot of non-field-agent Seventeenth Sharders, which would be less interesting. Field agents, they would actively recruit. Skyward release party (Nov. 6, 2018) 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaidakar the Ghostblood Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 @Bejardin1250 I like your theory, it makes sense. @Honorless thanks for the info. the fact that Mraize has an aether means that they went to Aether of Night world whatever that's called. so pretty much Ghostbloods stretch very far even into unpublished stories. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bejarden Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) 17 hours ago, Frustration said: Thaidakar is overconfident, 17th shard has them outclassed, the IRE has had centuries of a head start, etc. There is no feasable wya they are the most powerful in only three-hundred years. I don’t know If anyone can do it be him The 17th Shard if I had to guess has not been doing much, (basically nothing)and is now being threatened by this new group: The Ghostbloods They don’t take it seriously for many years then suddenly members start going missing here and there And now the GB have amassed a huge operation right under the 17 Shard nose and are par with them in strength But not in numbers I would like the upcoming Silverlight novel to deal with this and maybe show the 17th Shard making a comeback Edited June 17, 2021 by Bejardin1250 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsdaughter613 Posted June 17, 2021 Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 17 hours ago, Frustration said: Thaidakar is overconfident, 17th shard has them outclassed, the IRE has had centuries of a head start, etc. There is no feasable wya they are the most powerful in only three-hundred years. Have you informed Thaidakar of this? I’m pretty sure ‘not feasible’ is just an encouragement. I don’t think he even knows what the term ‘impossible’ means. He seems to have made a career out of doing it... 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustration Posted June 17, 2021 Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 4 hours ago, Kingsdaughter613 said: Have you informed Thaidakar of this? I’m pretty sure ‘not feasible’ is just an encouragement. I don’t think he even knows what the term ‘impossible’ means. He seems to have made a career out of doing it... I mean, you aren't wrong. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honorless Posted June 17, 2021 Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) Oooh, I just realized- I think those branch looking things from Yolen might've been Tamu Keks! Looking at the other things in Mraize's collection A vial of pale sand refers to white sand from Taldain, it's confirmed* A couple of thick hairpins probably refers to Hemalurgic spikes? Might refer to Soulstamps? A lock of golden hair, probably the Royal Locks of Idris from Nalthis A silver knife from Threnody An odd flower preserved in some kind of solution could refer to Tears of Edgli from Nalthis (they are Invested)*, it could also refer to Patji's Fingers flowers from First of the Sun (they're Invested as we see in the novella, and the Ghostbloods already have Aviar from there, so they can definitely access the place), or Marewills from Scadrial (though those are not Invested objects but Thaidakar is Kelsier) The chunk of pale pink crystal is confirmed to be an aether* Quote Brandon Sanderson So, if you don't know what these, the Tears of Edgli are flowers that they get a specific dye for that are briefly mentioned in the books. But they are where the Shardpool is in Warbreaker. So it's actually pretty relevant, although in the first book, it doesn't actually pop up all that much. But they are Invested flowers, basically. YouTube Livestream 3 (Jan. 25, 2020) Quote Questioner Mraize's Basement Emporium. Is that more like a trophy room or a "In case of emergencies" room? Multiple people Or a bank vault? Or a weapon's vault? Or both? Brandon Sanderson So, yes... I mean, he can't use the Aether, right? ...He can't use the Aether, he doesn't have an Aether. But the sand, the sand does stuff. So a handful of sand is a really useful amount of sand to have if you're not a sandmaster. Because sand reacts to Investiture. So if you let it fade and you take it somewhere, as soon as Investiture goes kinetic, it'll turn white again. So you'll be able to use it to tell who's using Inve-- it works just like a Seeker, like bronze pulses... So having white sand, having sand around is really good. If you can keep the little beasties that are growing on the sand around, they will react to basically the Investiture equivalent of radiation. So that's handy. Emerald City Comic Con 2018 (March 1, 2018) ------------------------------------------------ WinespringBrother When Veil went to Mraize's lair, she saw a vial of white sand. Was there a reason that it didn't turn black? Brandon Sanderson Yes WinespringBrother Can you tell me that reason? Brandon Sanderson So, sand will turn white in the presence of certain kinetic usage of Investiture. WinespringBrother Okay, so that was what Veil was doing? Brandon Sanderson Depends on how loud the Investiture is, that sand-- that sand just absorbed some of the Stormlight. I'll just be be clear with you, yeah... It was not the stuff that Veil was doing. JordanCon 2018 (April 22, 2018) Quote Questioner Will we see Aether of Night eventually? Brandon Sanderson I can't promise. You've seen the aethers; Mraize's room of trophies. But I can't absolutely promise I'll work it in... The question is, if I find the time. I just stay consistent on the mainline Cosmere books. If I find the time, I'll get Aether of Night. Skyward Houston signing (Nov. 19, 2018) Edited June 21, 2021 by Honorless 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaidakar the Ghostblood Posted June 18, 2021 Report Share Posted June 18, 2021 On 6/16/2021 at 5:47 PM, Kingsdaughter613 said: Have you informed Thaidakar of this? I’m pretty sure ‘not feasible’ is just an encouragement. I don’t think he even knows what the term ‘impossible’ means. He seems to have made a career out of doing it... impossible is not a word, improbable is though. we mistborn need not make sense. there is always another secret I have told my society of you sharders peaking around trying to find out more, luckily you won't. infiltrating you is easy. it is fun finding out about you 17th sharders. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mage Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 In a meta sense we are all members of the 17th shard. @Thaidakar the Ghostblood are you recruiting from here? If so I would totally be down for becoming a Ghostblood. (We should start a rival forum called ghostbloods.com In response to the question about size I think there wouldn’t be more than 100 members per year planet, and probably less on places like Threnody. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsdaughter613 Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 5 hours ago, Mage said: In a meta sense we are all members of the 17th shard. @Thaidakar the Ghostblood are you recruiting from here? If so I would totally be down for becoming a Ghostblood. (We should start a rival forum called ghostbloods.com In response to the question about size I think there wouldn’t be more than 100 members per year planet, and probably less on places like Threnody. We should totally do this, just to see what will happen... If nothing else, we should create our own Reddit forum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halyo_Alex Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 6 hours ago, Kingsdaughter613 said: We should totally do this, just to see what will happen... If nothing else, we should create our own Reddit forum. r/ghostbloods sounds like a fun side project I'd join that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsdaughter613 Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Halyo_Alex said: r/ghostbloods sounds like a fun side project I'd join that. @Thaidakar the Ghostblood Boss, would you like to do the honors? Or would someone else like to set this up (because I don’t know how)? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halyo_Alex Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 Just now, Kingsdaughter613 said: @Thaidakar the Ghostblood Boss, would you like to do the honors? Or would someone else like to set this up (because I don’t know how)? I also have no idea how to make a subreddit, so someone smart's gotta come around and do it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsdaughter613 Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 Just now, Halyo_Alex said: I also have no idea how to make a subreddit, so someone smart's gotta come around and do it Where is the right place to make a forum discussion on how to make an r/ghostblood subreddit? I’m thinking we allow full Mistborn and SA spoilers, but flare for any other worlds? Maybe a two week spoiler period to discuss to TLM and one month for KoWT? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honorless Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 Guys, there's already an r/ghostblood subreddit 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halyo_Alex Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Honorless said: Guys, there's already an r/ghostblood subreddit wait. whaaaa. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honorless Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 https://www.reddit.com/r/Ghostblood/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mage Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Honorless said: Guys, there's already an r/ghostblood subreddit So there is. It looks like there are a grand total of three posts there. Anyone down to cast off the non-intervention policy of Frost and the 17th Shard and join Master Thaidakar and his Ghostbloods? (and I'm only kidding about casting off the Shard. This is one of the best fan forums that I have ever seen.) Edited June 21, 2021 by Mage 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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