Cheyenne Sedai Posted May 10, 2021 Report Share Posted May 10, 2021 As we prepare for our Hero of Ages episodes for the Worldhoppers Podcast, I'd like to ask for some fun lore, like I have before, about Hero of Ages, with no Cosmere (including Era 2 and SH) spoilers. I'm saving the ones I've gotten about that for our secret history episode when we can discuss all those secrets freely, but it will be a while until that happens. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Technovore Posted May 10, 2021 Report Share Posted May 10, 2021 The epigraphs mention that, had Elend stuck around just a little while after talking to the mist spirit for the last time, he'd have seen Leras's body drop into the Physical. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsdaughter613 Posted May 10, 2021 Report Share Posted May 10, 2021 Preservation’s Vessel’s name is Leras. Ruin’s Vessel’s name is Ati. That really is Kelsier talking to Spook telling him about spikes, when Spook is in a coma. (Note: this information does not come from SH (HoA annotations, actually) and can be extrapolated from HoA.) It is also Kelsier speaking to Vin as she Ascends. Slowswift is a cameo for the Professor. What Slowswift says changes in later editions of the book. Sazed meant two base metals and alloys in his letter to Spook; later editions of Mistborn have made that obvious. Sazed’s letter reveals/confirms that Kelsier is still around, noting that Kelsier requested that Spook be made Mistborn. Spook is a low powered Mistborn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Harrycrapper Posted May 10, 2021 Report Share Posted May 10, 2021 This one's a little bit deep for someone who doesn't know anything about the Cosmere outside of Mistborn(specifically, Realmatics): Elend actually went into the Spiritual realm when he burned duralumin and Atium at the end there. This next part is speculation, I thought it was in a WoB but I didn't see anything: I think Elend saw that his death is what prompted Vin to kill Ruin which leads to Sazed becoming Harmony and saving the world. It's why he said "we won Marsh." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustration Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 Any Coinshot/lurcher can use Inquisitor Steelsight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancer Posted May 12, 2021 Report Share Posted May 12, 2021 During the Era 1 Inquisitors were using their own spikes as Metalminds. Brandon has acknowledged that this causes problems in the canon because Investiture is suppose to resist other Investiture. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsdaughter613 Posted May 12, 2021 Report Share Posted May 12, 2021 7 hours ago, Dancer said: During the Era 1 Inquisitors were using their own spikes as Metalminds. Brandon has acknowledged that this causes problems in the canon because Investiture is suppose to resist other Investiture. Sazed’s letter also states that Seekers and Copperclouds often become savants unknowingly. This makes changing how Allomantic savantism work tricky and also means that some forms of Allomantic Savantism don’t really fit with other forms of Savantism. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halyo_Alex Posted May 14, 2021 Report Share Posted May 14, 2021 On 5/12/2021 at 2:23 PM, Kingsdaughter613 said: Sazed’s letter also states that Seekers and Copperclouds often become savants unknowingly. This makes changing how Allomantic savantism work tricky and also means that some forms of Allomantic Savantism don’t really fit with other forms of Savantism. Unless what they're experiencing isn't "real" Savantism that comes with drawbacks, just a natural expertise of using those allomantic metals. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsdaughter613 Posted May 14, 2021 Report Share Posted May 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Halyo_Alex said: Unless what they're experiencing isn't "real" Savantism that comes with drawbacks, just a natural expertise of using those allomantic metals. I think Harmony would know not to call that Savantism... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustration Posted May 14, 2021 Report Share Posted May 14, 2021 On 5/12/2021 at 0:23 PM, Kingsdaughter613 said: Sazed’s letter also states that Seekers and Copperclouds often become savants unknowingly. This makes changing how Allomantic savantism work tricky and also means that some forms of Allomantic Savantism don’t really fit with other forms of Savantism. Sazed also says Hemalurgy always requires death and that there are only two missing metals, it could easily be something he didn't understand, or as @Halyo_Alex said borderline Savantism 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsdaughter613 Posted May 14, 2021 Report Share Posted May 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Frustration said: Sazed also says Hemalurgy always requires death and that there are only two missing metals, it could easily be something he didn't understand, or as @Halyo_Alex said borderline Savantism The two missing metals were bases. This was fixed to be more obvious in later editions. Saze very much did not want people using Hemalurgy. Also, the only method of surviving spiking is unavailable to most people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustration Posted May 14, 2021 Report Share Posted May 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Kingsdaughter613 said: The two missing metals were bases. This was fixed to be more obvious in later editions. But it does mean that interpretation is possible 1 minute ago, Kingsdaughter613 said: Saze very much did not want people using Hemalurgy. Also, the only method of surviving spiking is unavailable to most people. Actually Spoiler Questioner Hemalurgy, does the person having the metal shoved through them have to die? Brandon Sanderson It has to rip off a piece of their soul. That normally results in death. Questioner Because I'm thinking you're going a bit into the future, surgery, precise things like that... Brandon Sanderson It's plausible but-- I mean it would leave the person like-- it's ripping off a piece of their soul. But the same thing happens when you give up your Breath. So you're giving up a piece of your soul. There are-- It's plausible you could take off pieces of a soul without killing the person. Salt Lake City Comic-Con 2014 (Sept. 4, 2014) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsdaughter613 Posted May 14, 2021 Report Share Posted May 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Frustration said: But it does mean that interpretation is possible Actually Hide contents Questioner Hemalurgy, does the person having the metal shoved through them have to die? Brandon Sanderson It has to rip off a piece of their soul. That normally results in death. Questioner Because I'm thinking you're going a bit into the future, surgery, precise things like that... Brandon Sanderson It's plausible but-- I mean it would leave the person like-- it's ripping off a piece of their soul. But the same thing happens when you give up your Breath. So you're giving up a piece of your soul. There are-- It's plausible you could take off pieces of a soul without killing the person. Salt Lake City Comic-Con 2014 (Sept. 4, 2014) The available method. And Saze was actively trying to discourage its study. Essentially, there are in-world explanations. There really isn’t a good one for why Saze would want to lead people to falsely believe that some forms of Savantism were safe if they weren’t. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheyenne Sedai Posted June 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2021 Thanks for all these, they're great 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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