Your opinions on the Child Champion theory

[Green chicken]

4 minutes ago, Bejardin1250 said:

Not to defend Frustration but...

1: We still got the Hero and Vin did ascend 

There will still be a contest, Taravangian would just try to make it void.

5 minutes ago, Bejardin1250 said:

2: Out of 5000 pages there’s like 100 pages of fighting, not even 

it’s a small amount

That's Brandon's style, his books are relatively slow until the climax.

[Bejarden]

2 minutes ago, Frustration said:

Going to Odium after killing relies on him undoing OB. Surrender is him refusing to do something my problem, and suicide is out of the question simply due to the messaging.

13 minutes ago, Bejardin1250 said:

I think he will undo OB because at the rift the one thing The Blackthorn wouldn’t do was kill a child and it would be a nice turn around if he did in book 5 and reverted

I disagree on point 2 but point 3 is valid

4 minutes ago, Frustration said:

huge battle while the most calculating and manipulative being we know plays three dimnetional chess with the hero's rushing to stop what's happening in the background without violating the contract, while Dalinar fights on the foreground, and both of them needing to succed is anti-climactic?

What does Character  Development have to do with anything Dalinar already had his in OB.

That’s not going to happen.

They have 10 days and a boatload of stuff to do nobody is going to be trying to stop some loophole they don’t know exists

5 minutes ago, Frustration said:

What does Character  Development have to do with anything Dalinar already had his in OB.

14 minutes ago, Green chicken said:

You can never have enough Character Development 

[Green chicken]

2 minutes ago, Frustration said:

 

A huge battle while the most calculating and manipulative being we know plays three dimnetional chess with the hero's rushing to stop what's happening in the background without violating the contract, while Dalinar fights on the foreground, and both of them needing to succed is anti-climactic?

The contest(with out a loophole) will just be two people trying to kill each other. 

5 minutes ago, Frustration said:

And?

That implies that Taravangian's plans are different, and the missed possibilities part means that taravangians short term plans are going to be different since his foresight is currently incapable of seeing to far into the future.

8 minutes ago, Frustration said:

Odium can see Axi, it would be unreasonable to assume he wouldn't know who died first

  Renarin and Rlain would be messing with his shardic sight.

[Bejarden]

1 minute ago, Green chicken said:

Renarin and Rlain would be messing with his shardic sight.

That’s...only future sight

[Frustration]

5 minutes ago, Bejardin1250 said:

I think he will undo OB because at the rift the one thing The Blackthorn wouldn’t do was kill a child and it would be a nice turn around if he did in book 5 and reverted

That is an intresting hypothetical I will give you that.

5 minutes ago, Bejardin1250 said:

That’s not going to happen.

They have 10 days and a boatload of stuff to do nobody is going to be trying to stop some loophole they don’t know exists

There are several ways for them to find out Hoid could realise why his perfect pitch is off, The Sibling could notice something happening(depending on the loophole)

Jasnah being smart etc.

5 minutes ago, Bejardin1250 said:

You can never have enough Character Development 

If you say so.

Try re-reading OB there is so much it's AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

1 minute ago, Green chicken said:

The contest(with out a loophole) will just be two people trying to kill each other. 

Worked just fine for WoK, WoR and OB

1 minute ago, Green chicken said:

That implies that Taravangian's plans are different, and the missed possibilities part means that taravangians short term plans are going to be different since his foresight is currently incapable of seeing to far into the future.

And?

[Bejarden]

1 minute ago, Frustration said:

There are several ways for them to find out Hoid could realise why his perfect pitch is off, The Sibling could notice something happening(depending on the loophole)

Jasnah being smart etc.

I think Hoid will figure it out

Just to late

You know I think we’re getting somewhere here 

[Green chicken]

Just now, Bejardin1250 said:

That’s...only future sight

Rayse couldn't see Dalinars meeting with Ishar because of Renarin.

1 minute ago, Frustration said:

Worked just fine for WoK, WoR and OB

The duel was only a minor part of the climax for OB, and it was only half of the climax for Wok and Wor.

3 minutes ago, Frustration said:

And?

That heavily implies that his champion, and strategy for the contest are going to be different. Not only that, he also believes that Rayse's mistake was accepting the contest.

[Bejarden]

Just now, Green chicken said:

Rayse couldn't see Dalinars meeting with Ishar because of Renarin.

This has many holes in it 

1: Renarin wasn’t there so it shouldn’t have mattered 

2: So you think Rayse was blind for the last 2 years?

3: This isn’t what Renarin does to Odium

[Frustration]

8 minutes ago, Bejardin1250 said:

I think Hoid will figure it out

Just to late

You know that would make an intresting last chapter.

Hoid sat back watching the fight, What had happend to his perfect pitch two weeks ago? He used to be able to tell who had made each step but now he couldn't, he hadn't been able to tell since he had met Odium. Oh Sto- *insert Odium escpaing Roshar here*

8 minutes ago, Bejardin1250 said:

You know I think we’re getting somewhere here 

It's fun when that happens

4 minutes ago, Green chicken said:

Rayse couldn't see Dalinars meeting with Ishar because of Renarin.

Source?

4 minutes ago, Green chicken said:

The duel was only a minor part of the climax for OB, and it was only half of the climax for Wok and Wor.

Yelig-nar was a lot more intresting and egaging than 'I am Unity"

Szeth vs Kal was the only climax I cared for in WoR

And what Climax was there other than Kal fighint to save Dalinar?

4 minutes ago, Green chicken said:

That heavily implies that his champion, and strategy for the contest are going to be different. Not only that, he also believes that Rayse's mistake was accepting the contest.

And this supports Child Champion how?

Edited May 16, 2021 by Frustration

[Green chicken]

1 minute ago, Bejardin1250 said:

This has many holes in it 

1: Renarin wasn’t there so it shouldn’t have mattered 

2: So you think Rayse was blind for the last 2 years?

3: This isn’t what Renarin does to Odium

What prevented Rayse from seeing the confrontation? 

[Frustration]

1 minute ago, Green chicken said:

What prevented Rayse from seeing the confrontation? 

What confrontation?

[Green chicken]

Just now, Frustration said:

What confrontation?

With Ishar.

[Bejarden]

Odium knew about it he just couldn’t hear what was said

Edit: 800 Post!

Edited May 16, 2021 by Bejardin1250

[Frustration]

Just now, Green chicken said:

With Ishar.

What tells you Odium couldn't see it?

[Bejarden]

4 minutes ago, Frustration said:

What tells you Odium couldn't see it?

Odium knew it happened but didn’t know what Ishar said

 

Edited May 16, 2021 by Bejardin1250

[Frustration]

Just now, Bejardin1250 said:

Odium knew it happened but didn’t know what Ishar said

Edit: 800 post!

801st 

[Bejarden]

Just now, Frustration said:

801st

Yah close enough I’ll edit the other one

The beauty of retconning old posts

[Green chicken]

5 minutes ago, Frustration said:

And this supports Child Champion how?

It supports the loophole theory, because it implies that Taravangian doesn't like the deal that Rayse and Dalinar made. Which means that Taravangian has the motivation for a loophole.  

[Frustration]

Just now, Green chicken said:

It supports the loophole theory, because it implies that Taravangian doesn't like the deal that Rayse and Dalinar made. Which means that Taravangian has the motivation for a loophole.  

There are a lot of loophole theories, that doesn't support Child Champion in particular.

[Bejarden]

Just now, Green chicken said:

It supports the loophole theory, because it implies that Taravangian doesn't like the deal that Rayse and Dalinar made. Which means that Taravangian has the motivation for a loophole.  

Well we already established that everyone thinks there will be a loophole the question is: What?

[Green chicken]

Just now, Bejardin1250 said:

Well we already established that everyone thinks there will be a loophole the question is: What?

@Frustration doesn't believe in the loophole theory.

1 minute ago, Frustration said:

There are a lot of loophole theories, that doesn't support Child Champion in particular.

My point was that Taravangian is looking for a loophole.

[Frustration]

1 minute ago, Green chicken said:

@Frustration doesn't believe in the loophole theory.

I do believe there will be a loophole, just that Child Champion is not it.

Edited May 16, 2021 by Frustration

[Bejarden]

Well this was all rather pointless wasn’t it

[Frustration]

Just now, Bejardin1250 said:

Well this was all rather pointless wasn’t it

But it was fun.

 

The real Child Chmpion was the friends we made along the way!

 

you can kill me now.

[Bejarden]

 

6 minutes ago, Frustration said:

But it was fun.

 

The real Child Chmpion was the friends we made along the way!

 

you can kill me now.

Oh I am so going to  (just so Homeland security doesn’t come after me, this was a joke)

so much hate

I was actually having a good time 

anyway I’m going away for 2 days so

I won’t respond till Wendsday

Edited May 16, 2021 by Bejardin1250