Szeth_Pancakes Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 We also might need to consider that there might be an elim Silence. I’m not sure why everyone has been assuming that Ash is vil just because of that, which feels completely unfounded, especially now that we’re pretty sure the elims knew the identity of our crossbow wielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintessential Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 26 minutes ago, Ashbringer said: I was under the impression that Dannex was redirected to kill Vonne, then Dannex dies to Shades, and Pizza was the Elim kill (from any of them). Ohhhh okay that makes more sense. So... Vonne/Araris/Mat/<Danforth>? 13 minutes ago, Szeth_Pancakes said: We also might need to consider that there might be an elim Silence. I’m not sure why everyone has been assuming that Ash is vil just because of that, which feels completely unfounded, especially now that we’re pretty sure the elims knew the identity of our crossbow wielder. I mean, I'd been reading Ash village because of how he claimed (last-minute, suggesting he was afraid he'd be killed by the elims and thus willing to risk a last-minute post that might not save him, rather than claiming when it first became clear he was in trouble), not what he claimed as. But I guess if we're out of leads at some point, Ash might be a person to consider. It would explain why the elims haven't tried to kill him, though that could also just be IKYK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashbringer Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 Sigh. Spoiler Araris Valerian has been executed survived execution! Vote Count Araris (7) - Azmine, Quinn, Szeth, Dannex, Ashbringer, vonnegut, Pizza, Flyingbooks Szeth (3) - Archer, Araris Vonnegut (1) - — Player List: Matrim’s Dice Gears Expeditioner Azmine_king Illwei Iron-willed Expeditioner Archer Quintessential Random Bystander Expeditioner Szeth_Pancakes Dannex Jondesu Ashbringer Araris Valerian Vonnegut PizzaPower55 Flyingbooks Every living player (aside from Mat and Jondesu, who were insane) voted on D2. There was a vote moved from Araris to Vonne (which could be many things, but preserves the same number of votes) and an extra vote on Szeth. Unless there's some major secrets going on, the only way that extra vote could have gotten there would be Professor Dyer, which means Dyer must be either Archer or Araris. And something tells me that Araris isn't Dyer, with Silver Bones, and a Crossbow, and a Spellbook, and hasn't counterclaimed Archer yet. Archer is confirmed. In addition, there's another fun thing we can do, seeing as Archer and I are going to get spied on anyway: Danforth cannot go insane. Spoiler Matrim’s Dice - Insane D3, D4 Gears - Dead Azmine_king - Insane D2 Illwei - Dead Archer - Confirmed Dyer Quintessential Random Bystander - Dead Szeth_Pancakes Dannex - Dead Jondesu - Insane D3 Ashbringer - Confirmed Silence (even if you think I'm Elim, I've been using protection actions this whole game, which Danforth cannot do) Araris Valerian - Insane D4 Vonnegut - Dead PizzaPower55 - Dead Flyingbooks So assuming there is a Danforth out there, it must be either Quintessential, Szeth_Pancakes, or Flyingbooks. I hope this next Night turn can help narrow things down a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elandera Posted May 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Archer said: Hey GMs, is it possible for someone to successfully submit a NK and be killed by the Shades in the same round? That is how it works. Shade attacks come after the kill, since shades are enraged by drawing the blood of another. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araris Valerian Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 I actually got the spellbook from the D1 vote, rather than starting with it. So the distro doesn't have to be too crazy for me to be village. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Ashbringer said: I was under the impression that Dannex was redirected to kill Vonne, then Dannex dies to Shades, and Pizza was the Elim kill (from any of them). I hate to agree with a theory Araris originated in this game, but I guess this is how it must have happened. I assumed Dannex was killed with the elim kill because that would make sense, but hey, I also expected the elims to redirect Ashbringer self protect and use their kill on him. It appears both sides got unlucky. 1 hour ago, Ashbringer said: Reveal hidden contents Matrim’s Dice - Insane D3, D4 Gears - Dead Azmine_king - Insane D2 Illwei - Dead Archer - Confirmed Dyer Quintessential Random Bystander - Dead Szeth_Pancakes Dannex - Dead Jondesu - Insane D3 Ashbringer - Confirmed Silence (even if you think I'm Elim, I've been using protection actions this whole game, which Danforth cannot do) Araris Valerian - Insane D4 Vonnegut - Dead PizzaPower55 - Dead Flyingbooks So assuming there is a Danforth out there, it must be either Quintessential, Szeth_Pancakes, or Flyingbooks. I hope this next Night turn can help narrow things down a bit. Because Quinn sussed Araris D1 and Flyingbooks voluntarily gave me a cool item, my money is on Szeth. Jondesu says Vonne didnt submit the kill, Araris didn't either, and Flyingbooks did an item pass. Mat went insane so am I correct in thinking we're left with Quinn and Szeth who could have submitted the kill (and are Danforth)? Quinn claimed to scan Dannex, while Szeth I think has yet to report. Just now, Araris Valerian said: I actually got the spellbook from the D1 vote, rather than starting with it. So the distro doesn't have to be too crazy for me to be village. Like, someone passed it to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araris Valerian Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Archer said: Like, someone passed it to you? No, Randby was holding it, and items of people that are voted out are distributed to the voters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jondesu Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Archer said: Mat went insane so am I correct in thinking we're left with Quinn and Szeth who could have submitted the kill (and are Danforth)? Quinn claimed to scan Dannex, while Szeth I think has yet to report. My gut tells me it’s Szeth but Quinn is devious sometimes so I’m worried about my gut trust on her currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintessential Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 19 hours ago, Jondesu said: My gut tells me it’s Szeth but Quinn is devious sometimes so I’m worried about my gut trust on her currently. smh you've played one full game with me and I was village. How would you know how devious I am? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 yeah but you also successfully stalked his post archive to figure out his age :hmmm: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintessential Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Archer said: yeah but you also successfully stalked his post archive to figure out his age :hmmm: What? He said he bet I couldn't do it! I like a challenge. And that's not devious, that's just common sense Edited May 7, 2021 by Quintessential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jondesu Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 5 hours ago, Quintessential said: smh you've played one full game with me and I was village. How would you know how devious I am? Didn’t I play with you before I left? I thought I remembered you. Maybe I’m mixing you up with someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintessential Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 25 minutes ago, Jondesu said: Didn’t I play with you before I left? I thought I remembered you. Maybe I’m mixing you up with someone else. Er... no, I don't think so. I joined in October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jondesu Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, Quintessential said: Er... no, I don't think so. I joined in October. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elandera Posted May 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 Inactivity filter reminder: @Flyingbooks, if you do not post this turn you will be replaced by a pinch-hitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyingbooks Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 At this point, there is so much evidence against Araris that the likelihood of an innocent explanation being true is absurdly tiny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elandera Posted May 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 The turn is over! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elandera Posted May 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 (edited) (((writeup to be added later))) Araris has been executed! They were an Elder Things Worshipper and Shade Expert! Vote Count Araris (7) - Azmine, Archer, Quinn, Szeth, Jondesu, Ashbringer, Flyingbooks Player List Spoiler Matrim’s Dice Gears Expeditioner Scribe Azmine_king Illwei Iron-willed Expeditioner Archer Quintessential Random Bystander Expeditioner Szeth_Pancakes Dannex Expeditioner Scribe Jondesu Ashbringer Araris Valerian Elder Things Worshipper/Shade Expert Vonnegut Elder Things Worshipper PizzaPower55 Expeditioner Flyingbooks This turn will end Sunday, May 8 at 9 p.m. PDT. (I am delaying the rollover for Mother's Day stuffs) Edited May 9, 2021 by Elandera 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jondesu Posted May 9, 2021 Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 No surprise there. What do we think? Is Szeth still a viable teammate to Araris/Vonne or does this assist our analysis? I can’t claim to have done a ton of analysis mostly, I’m going off gut and other’s logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer Posted May 9, 2021 Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 (edited) *gasp* Good game, Araris. I don't see why Szeth couldn't be an elim teammate. I think the Randy CW D1 was supported by Araris to save Szeth, who was at risk. And he's got to be Danforth, so it makes sense that they'd be the last person to get caught, as he's their most valuable role. I would love to action scan Mat and Szeth tonight. At risk of being over confident, I think we can just publicly coordinate our scans and so long as we get two people scanning each of them, they shouldn't be able to block us. There's a very small chance that I'm wrong and Quinn or Flyingbooks are elims instead (EDIT: of Szeth), so maybe you two could scan each other just to be safe? I'll watch Mat. Edited May 9, 2021 by Archer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jondesu Posted May 9, 2021 Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 I’ll watch Szeth. I don’t usually like public coordination of efforts, but this seems like as good a time as any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashbringer Posted May 9, 2021 Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 I'm a little less suspicious of Matrim now, mainly because I... don't remember what the original tie to Elim!Araris is, and I had a reason for V!Araris --> E!Mat. Plus it does raise the question of who was doing an Elim kill N3 if both Vonne and Araris were being scanned, Mat went insane presumably from risking a scan on Books, and Szeth is Danforth. But it's enough for me to want someone to scan Mat. Quinn/Books/Szeth, I'd appreciate it if you guys scan... someone. Quinn <---> Books would be a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Posted May 9, 2021 Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 I can also scan Szeth, or maybe Jondesu for a check. Was there a reason to clear him? I can't remember. Anyway, agree on Quinn-Books scanning each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashbringer Posted May 9, 2021 Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 Mainly we just know that Jondesu isn't Danforth, and has been accurate with scans so far. (Oh, and two Elim Thugs is a lot ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyingbooks Posted May 9, 2021 Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 I am willing to scan Quinn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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