+Oltux72 Posted April 11, 2021 Report Share Posted April 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Kingsdaughter613 said: As I noted earlier in this chat: Marsh likes being annoyed by it. It gives him something to grumble about to Kell. That raises a point. Do they sometimes scare people? Like walk into a bar with a hood on and when somebody says "I'll be damned if that is not true" Marsh drops his hood and says "You called?". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsdaughter613 Posted April 11, 2021 Report Share Posted April 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, Oltux72 said: That raises a point. Do they sometimes scare people? Like walk into a bar with a hood on and when somebody says "I'll be damned if that is not true" Marsh drops his hood and says "You called?". Considering it is canon that he likes skulking around as Death... Yes, I’d say so. Kell is actually less likely to pull this, since the conman in him objects to not playing the role and the part of him that wants to live up to Leras’ trust feels it wouldn’t be fair to his followers. Pathians and Sliverists are fair game though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cometaryorbit Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 I actually wouldn't be surprised if TLR did try to freeze language change, and possibly even succeeded to some degree, at least among nobles in the Inner Dominances. By controlling the education system, he could create a standard for "formal, proper" speech, from which "common" dialect might diverge sharply. We don't, IIRC, know much about dialect differences within the Final Empire. Spook's dialect is called "Eastern street slang", so some differences exist. We never see the Outer Dominances in Era 1 at all (except Kelsier walking through the Cognitive version after they're already well into Ruin's destruction). They might be more divergent. I'd kind of expect more difference between skaa and noble dialect in Luthadel, but maybe it's just not focused on in the books since all the viewpoint characters are able to do both. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsdaughter613 Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 32 minutes ago, cometaryorbit said: I actually wouldn't be surprised if TLR did try to freeze language change, and possibly even succeeded to some degree, at least among nobles in the Inner Dominances. By controlling the education system, he could create a standard for "formal, proper" speech, from which "common" dialect might diverge sharply. We don't, IIRC, know much about dialect differences within the Final Empire. Spook's dialect is called "Eastern street slang", so some differences exist. We never see the Outer Dominances in Era 1 at all (except Kelsier walking through the Cognitive version after they're already well into Ruin's destruction). They might be more divergent. I'd kind of expect more difference between skaa and noble dialect in Luthadel, but maybe it's just not focused on in the books since all the viewpoint characters are able to do both. They are more divergent per TEM. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cometaryorbit Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Kingsdaughter613 said: They are more divergent per TEM. I'm sorry, what's TEM? I can't get any of the book titles out of that acronym... EDIT: Oh, The Eleventh Metal short story? Edited May 3, 2021 by cometaryorbit realized after posting 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsdaughter613 Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, cometaryorbit said: I'm sorry, what's TEM? I can't get any of the book titles out of that acronym... EDIT: Oh, The Eleventh Metal short story? Yup! We get to see a bit of the Far Western Dominance and Kelsier mentions that he has a Luthadel accent. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cometaryorbit Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 30 minutes ago, Kingsdaughter613 said: Yup! We get to see a bit of the Far Western Dominance and Kelsier mentions that he has a Luthadel accent. Ok, the Luthadel accent is definitely good information. I think that's technically still Inner Dominances though - as is the Conventical of Seran in Well of Ascension. Aren't the Outer Dominances Crescent, Farmost, Remote, Terris, and Southern Islands? I don't think we ever actually get to Terris in any of the Era 1 stories (Vin and Elend turn back in WoA...) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsdaughter613 Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 16 minutes ago, cometaryorbit said: Ok, the Luthadel accent is definitely good information. I think that's technically still Inner Dominances though - as is the Conventical of Seran in Well of Ascension. Aren't the Outer Dominances Crescent, Farmost, Remote, Terris, and Southern Islands? I don't think we ever actually get to Terris in any of the Era 1 stories (Vin and Elend turn back in WoA...) Where Shezler is is pretty much on the border, from what Kell indicates. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cometaryorbit Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 A good point. Conventical of Seran isn't far from the border either. I'd just like to have seen what the Southern Islands, or the bandit/rebel camps which apparently existed in the desert areas on the border, were like. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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