Chinkoln Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 Just now, Parzival said: Hitting any one of these spots would put the seer in the compounder's grasp and would be very hard to pull off, being a seer doesn't make them a better fighter either, just lets them react to future data faster. Plus a compounder would heal from any of these easily. This is kind of my point. The gold compounder has to be constantly healing. They can heal from all that stuff, but only if they are conscious. They can’t start healing after the blow. And the atium kinda does make them a better fighter, solely because they can see the exact movements of the compounder. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parzival Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chinkoln said: This is kind of my point. The gold compounder has to be constantly healing. They can heal from all that stuff, but only if they are conscious. They can’t start healing after the blow. And the atium kinda does make them a better fighter, solely because they can see the exact movements of the compounder. But that doesn't increase their technical knowledge of pressure points, weaknesses, etc. So unless they were a trained fighter they wouldn't know about solar plexus and pressure points. Also your average fighter doesn't just go the eye, unless they panic and are already close to their opponent 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinkoln Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Parzival said: But that doesn't increase their technical knowledge of pressure points, weaknesses, etc. So unless they were a trained fighter they wouldn't know about solar plexus and pressure points. Also your average fighter doesn't just go the eye, unless they panic and are already close to their opponent This conversation is going in the same direction it went before. It comes down to personality, knowledge of opponent, and fighting capabilities. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parzival Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 Just now, Chinkoln said: This conversation is going in the same direction it went before. It comes down to personality, knowledge of opponent, and fighting capabilities. That's true of every fight. We are determining if all these things are equal, whos abilitites would give them the advantage. In my opinion part of a compounder's ability is that they are able to get massive amounts of their feruchemical store while others are more limited, so based on powers only, the compounder should have much more health than the seer has of atium sight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bejarden Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 How about value of the item for a standard? Althogh that will heavily favor the Compounder the only way to make it “fair” is to give them both limitless amounts, but that would disadvantage the Compounder So maybe each one gets 5 metalminds/Beeds to be used but Atium burns faster There really Is no way for it to be equal because the fundamental concept of compounding is that he has more than the Seer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parzival Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bejardin1250 said: How about value of the item for a standard? Althogh that will heavily favor the Compounder the only way to make it “fair” is to give them both limitless amounts, but that would disadvantage the Compounder So maybe each one gets 5 metalminds/Beeds to be used but Atium burns faster There really Is no way for it to be equal because the fundamental concept of compounding is that he has more than the Seer I think even unlimited resources for both benefits the bloodmaker, cause then they'll just constantly draw on health and make a mad rush with no regard for self preservation cause they know they can't get hurt permanently and would eventually overpower even a seer. I like your idea of equal beads and metalminds cause that is probably more realistic than the unlimited resources or equal resources scenarios. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinkoln Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 46 minutes ago, Parzival said: That's true of every fight. We are determining if all these things are equal, whos abilitites would give them the advantage. Someone is holding a bazooka, and someone is holding a knife. It doesn’t matter if the bazooka person has the better weapon, because they might be unwilling to risk getting caught in the explosion, or the knife person might be a cold hearted killer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parzival Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Chinkoln said: Someone is holding a bazooka, and someone is holding a knife. It doesn’t matter if the bazooka person has the better weapon, because they might be unwilling to risk getting caught in the explosion, or the knife person might be a cold hearted killer. Good thing a gold compounder would be willing to be in the explosion or to get stabbed 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinkoln Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, Parzival said: Good thing a gold compounder would be willing to be in the explosion or to get stabbed But what if they didn’t want to kill another person? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parzival Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 Just now, Chinkoln said: But what if they didn’t want to kill another person? Then why are they in a fight to the death in the first place? By your line of questioning the seer may not want to kill anyone either. We aren't discussing morality or motivation, we are asking if they were fighting to the death, both willing to kill the other, who would win? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinkoln Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, Parzival said: Then why are they in a fight to the death in the first place? By your line of questioning the seer may not want to kill anyone either. We aren't discussing morality or motivation, we are asking if they were fighting to the death, both willing to kill the other, who would win? The situation is hypothetical. We have LITERALLY no way of knowing, unless someone asks Brandon or he writes it into a book. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parzival Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 Just now, Chinkoln said: The situation is hypothetical. We have LITERALLY no way of knowing, unless someone asks Brandon or he writes it into a book. Of course we have no way of knowing, that's why we are discussing the strengths and weaknesses of both sides to determine which ability would give their user the advantage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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