Celairiel Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 The first half of this conversation happened Tuesday. After which I had to call her and get her to give me more context as to where she was so I knew whether or not Kelsier was going to die yet. The second half is from Friday. Moments like this are priceless. I then explained to her the concept of the Sandersavalanche and encouraged her to finish The Final Empire today. It's so amusing watching her react, I thought it would be fun to share some of the best here. Now, opinion question. Should I take her straight to Stormlight next, or somehow get her a copy of Secret History before starting WOK? She read Warbreaker first, she's going to finish Era 1 next, and she's hungry for more explicit Cosmere stuff, so I'm planning Stormlight next of the major storylines. That way she'll have Era 2, Elantris, and the Arcanum Unbounded to enjoy once she's caught up on Stormlight. But I'm now debating whether it will be more fun to give her Secret History so she knows about Kelsier's cognitive shadow before reading Stormlight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spren of Kindness Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 I'd say Secret History. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halyo_Alex Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 3 hours ago, Spren of Kindness said: I'd say Secret History. Era 2 first, so she can get surprised by him showing up in the unsealed coppermind memory? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konaka Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 I would also agree with Era 2 before Secret History, even though it's not a huge moment she seems to really like Kelsier and will be even more surprised in BoM. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquaRegia Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 I also agree - Era 2 before Secret History. And not JUST because that's the order I had to read them in! I think it's important for the reader to take in how modern Scadrians view the Survivor, and how Brandon describes the religion of Survivorism... BEFORE finding out Kelsier is still "around". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celairiel Posted February 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 Thanks for the suggestions! I had planned to have her wait Era 2 until the last book was out, but the point about finding out about Kel less immediately is smart. Plus, I'm introducing my dad at the same time since they share an Audible account, and I think he'll really like Era 2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsdaughter613 Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 On 1/30/2021 at 11:19 AM, AquaRegia said: I also agree - Era 2 before Secret History. And not JUST because that's the order I had to read them in! I think it's important for the reader to take in how modern Scadrians view the Survivor, and how Brandon describes the religion of Survivorism... BEFORE finding out Kelsier is still "around". Admittedly, I’ve known that since HoA. And the annotations confirmed that guess. And then I guessed certain other things quite early (cough... 2014... cough). And figured out the Sovereign halfway through BoM. (And promptly dropped my kindle and did a happy dance.) It was still jaw dropping and chilling to see that Coppermind memory. And then to discover Secret History existed? That was just the icing on the cake. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celairiel Posted February 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2021 Pardon the spelling - she's listening to the audio books. She's at the end of WoA and she's determined that Sazed is the Hero of Ages. And I can't tell her how proud I am of her, because she has an entire book left. I definitely didn't catch on that quick on my first read. Looking back, the foreshadowing is all there. When did everyone else figure out who the real hero was? For me, it was somewhere midway in the third book. I figured it out before Sazed did, but not too terribly long before. Long enough that I was confused when Vin ascended and was worried that would mess things up, but not long enough that I was frustrated by NO ONE realizing the answer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquaRegia Posted February 14, 2021 Report Share Posted February 14, 2021 Same for me - I got it just slightly before Sazed gets it. Kudos to your sis for her amazing SanderSkills! It's gotta be frustrating to have another whole book to wait before you can really talk to her about how awesome she is LOL I'm looking forward to hearing how she does on Era 2 reveals... because some of those blew my rusting mind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celairiel Posted February 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 On 2/14/2021 at 2:19 PM, AquaRegia said: Same for me - I got it just slightly before Sazed gets it. Kudos to your sis for her amazing SanderSkills! It's gotta be frustrating to have another whole book to wait before you can really talk to her about how awesome she is LOL I'm looking forward to hearing how she does on Era 2 reveals... because some of those blew my rusting mind. Yes. And it just keeps getting more frustrating. She's a phenomenal sleuth. So much so I boasted to my mom about it - who doesn't read the Cosmere. And I'm glad someone else is interested in watching her progress. I love watching people discover things I like and I'm really excited once she's fully caught up to let her read over this thread. In her most recent update to me, she's drawn the connection between Kel and the mist spirit. And also misinterpreted Spook's extra powers. I corrected her when she later guessed Feruchemy and pointed out to her that he doesn't have to store power up. I'm very interested to see what she thinks of Hemalurgy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsdaughter613 Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Celairiel said: Yes. And it just keeps getting more frustrating. She's a phenomenal sleuth. So much so I boasted to my mom about it - who doesn't read the Cosmere. And I'm glad someone else is interested in watching her progress. I love watching people discover things I like and I'm really excited once she's fully caught up to let her read over this thread. In her most recent update to me, she's drawn the connection between Kel and the mist spirit. And also misinterpreted Spook's extra powers. I corrected her when she later guessed Feruchemy and pointed out to her that he doesn't have to store power up. I'm very interested to see what she thinks of Hemalurgy. Kelsier did the actual French Revolution. Quellion is doing the Committee of Public Safety (best known for the Reign of Terror). Elend is doing Napoleon. Between them you have three different elements of that Revolution. The French Revolution was not the Reign of Terror!!!! A lot more happened than just the guillotine!! As you can see, I have... opinions on this subject. Mostly regarding the inadequacy of a lot of historical education... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celairiel Posted February 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Kingsdaughter613 said: Kelsier did the actual French Revolution. Quellion is doing the Committee of Public Safety (best known for the Reign of Terror). Elend is doing Napoleon. Between them you have three different elements of that Revolution. The French Revolution was not the Reign of Terror!!!! A lot more happened than just the guillotine!! As you can see, I have... opinions on this subject. Mostly regarding the inadequacy of a lot of historical education... She's actually the sort of person who will appreciate that distinction. Once she's done with the book, I'll have to point it out. I hadn't drawn the Elend/Napoleon connection myself. Thanks! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsdaughter613 Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 32 minutes ago, Celairiel said: She's actually the sort of person who will appreciate that distinction. Once she's done with the book, I'll have to point it out. I hadn't drawn the Elend/Napoleon connection myself. Thanks! You’re welcome! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+robardin Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 (edited) On 2/14/2021 at 3:55 PM, Celairiel said: Pardon the spelling - she's listening to the audio books. She's at the end of WoA and she's determined that Sazed is the Hero of Ages. And I can't tell her how proud I am of her, because she has an entire book left. I definitely didn't catch on that quick on my first read. Looking back, the foreshadowing is all there. When did everyone else figure out who the real hero was? For me, it was somewhere midway in the third book. I figured it out before Sazed did, but not too terribly long before. Long enough that I was confused when Vin ascended and was worried that would mess things up, but not long enough that I was frustrated by NO ONE realizing the answer. Actually this may be even more delicious in the end, because at this point I also had thought it was possible Sazed was the HoA because (a) he was Terris, and (b) how the mist spirit acted. But after Vin released Ruin, and we learned more about the original prophecies about Ruin and the true nature of the Well being a prison for him throughout the book actually titled "The Hero of Ages", wherein Sazed himself finds many good reasons to assess Vin as the HoA... Including the fact that Vin alone had been able to "draw upon the mists"... And then she actually Ascended... Why would I doubt that? Though if she's doing the audiobook thing, a bigger tell would be if the voice of the chapter epigraphs in HoA are read in Sazed's voice ("I am, unfortunately, the Hero of Ages"). That'd almost be too bad. Edited February 25, 2021 by robardin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celairiel Posted March 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2021 After a week-long decompression from the end of HOA, she has now begun Era 2. I worried she wouldn't forgive me that so many people died, but she is willing to read onward. She was delighted by the place-names honoring the Era 1 heroes. Additionally, she has developed a healthy sense of skepticism from her reading so far. Denth and Tonk Fah really made an impression. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquaRegia Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 I'm so jealous that I can never again read Alloy of Law for the first time LOL There are so many juicy surprises in there... please keep us updated! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halyo_Alex Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 17 hours ago, AquaRegia said: I'm so jealous that I can never again read Alloy of Law for the first time LOL There are so many juicy surprises in there... please keep us updated! Ah yes, my First Ever Cosmere Book. Nope, not a joke. I was that smooth-brained that Alloy was the first book authored by Brandon that I read. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustration Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 23 minutes ago, Halyo_Alex said: Ah yes, my First Ever Cosmere Book. Nope, not a joke. I was that smooth-brained that Alloy was the first book authored by Brandon that I read. DESCRIBE EVERYTHING! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halyo_Alex Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 Just now, Frustration said: DESCRIBE EVERYTHING! At this point, should I make a forum topic that just describes my experience with mistborn due to reading Era 2 first? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustration Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 Just now, Halyo_Alex said: At this point, should I make a forum topic that just describes my experience with mistborn due to reading Era 2 first? yes, I will read. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halyo_Alex Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 Just now, Frustration said: yes, I will read. Okay, gimme like a half hour to write it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celairiel Posted March 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 20 hours ago, AquaRegia said: I'm so jealous that I can never again read Alloy of Law for the first time LOL There are so many juicy surprises in there... please keep us updated! I'm so glad people are enjoying watching her progress as much as I am! She's really excited to come back and see how the community reacted to her reactions once she's all caught up. 2 hours ago, Frustration said: DESCRIBE EVERYTHING! Agreed! I'll also be reading this. That's a unique starting place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquaRegia Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 7 hours ago, Halyo_Alex said: Ah yes, my First Ever Cosmere Book. Nope, not a joke. I was that smooth-brained that Alloy was the first book authored by Brandon that I read. Bah! Airsick lowlander. Not how this thing is done. Most importantly, what was it like to read Era 1, already knowing how lots of things would end up? Seems AWFULLY spoilery. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustration Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 Just now, AquaRegia said: Bah! Airsick lowlander. Not how this thing is done. Most importantly, what was it like to read Era 1, already knowing how lots of things would end up? Seems AWFULLY spoilery. they have a thread about it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celairiel Posted March 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 She loves Wayne. But who can really blame her. He's amazing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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