Theoryspren Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) So far it seems as if Shallan and Adolins next step is to find BAM and release her, as they both have deadeye spren and Kalak indicated that BAM being captured lead to dead eyes. However there are only ten days left till the battle of champions and they are stuck in the middle of shadesmar, more than ten days away from the closest perpindicularity. So by that logic BAM is most likely in shadesmar and within ten days journey. Kalak was there for the capture of BAM so he could have her in shadesmar. But if he did he likely would have told Adolin and Shallan at the end of RoW when they all talked together about BAM, dead eyes, and Maya. However we know that another Herald was there at the capture of BAM other than Kalak. We know acording to maps and RoW that Lasting Integrity is on the between Tukar and Emul right near where Dalinar and Odiums forces faced each other, and where Dalinar talked to Ishar. AT the end of which Ishar went into the congnitive realm. So he is somewhere close to Lasting Integrity in the cognitive realm. I believe that Ishar was the other Herald there for the capturing of BAM and that the radiants gave him the perfect gem that holds BAM. Because if he has it, Shallan and Adolin could get it from him within the ten days as he is right outside Lasting Integrity. But there is more, near the end of RoW dead eyes started gathering outside Lasting Integrity. The honorspren said it was because they were finally going to get justice, but what if instead they were drawn to BAM. Because again acording to Kalak dead eyes only occured after BAM's capture and said that BAM was conected to all of Roshar including spren. So the dead eyes could still be connected to BAM enough that they are drawn to where she is. In that case it would mean that BAM was near the border of Tukar and Emul, right where Ishar was, waiting for Dalinar. In sumation, another Herald was at BAM's capture, dead eyes who only exist because of BAM's capture are flocking to Tukar and Emul's border where Ishar is, Ishar went through a perpindicularity and is now right outside Lasting Integrity, and there are only ten days left for Adolin and Shallan to find and free BAM. The only logical thing is that Ishar has BAM. Edited January 14, 2021 by Theoryspren 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem17 Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 I can get behind this theory! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolsnow7 Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 On 1/13/2021 at 2:13 PM, Theoryspren said: However we know that another Herald was there at the capture of BAM other than Kalak. We do? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoryspren Posted January 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 I went back and it says that Nale was at BAMs capture. But other heralds including Ishar could have been there to or Nale could have given BAM to Ishar as we know Nale still takes advice from Ishar. So if Ishar has told him to give him BAM he likely would have. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustration Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 17 minutes ago, Theoryspren said: I went back and it says that Nale was at BAMs capture. But other heralds including Ishar could have been there to or Nale could have given BAM to Ishar as we know Nale still takes advice from Ishar. So if Ishar has told him to give him BAM he likely would have. Kalak was there wasn't he? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspiring Writer Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Frustration said: Kalak was there wasn't he? XD He literally mentioned that. On 1/13/2021 at 11:13 AM, Theoryspren said: Kalak was there for the capture of BAM So yes, he was. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustration Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 22 minutes ago, Aspiring Writer said: XD He literally mentioned that. So yes, he was. you quoted a different place 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspiring Writer Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 16 minutes ago, Frustration said: you quoted a different place Different place? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustration Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 24 minutes ago, Aspiring Writer said: Different place? post, different post. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspiring Writer Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 Just now, Frustration said: post, different post. Nope. RIght here. On 1/13/2021 at 11:13 AM, Theoryspren said: So far it seems as if Shallan and Adolins next step is to find BAM and release her, as they both have deadeye spren and Kalak indicated that BAM being captured lead to dead eyes. However there are only ten days left till the battle of champions and they are stuck in the middle of shadesmar, more than ten days away from the closest perpindicularity. So by that logic BAM is most likely in shadesmar and within ten days journey. Kalak was there for the capture of BAM so he could have her in shadesmar. But if he did he likely would have told Adolin and Shallan at the end of RoW when they all talked together about BAM, dead eyes, and Maya. However we know that another Herald was there at the capture of BAM other than Kalak. We know acording to maps and RoW that Lasting Integrity is on the between Tukar and Emul right near where Dalinar and Odiums forces faced each other, and where Dalinar talked to Ishar. AT the end of which Ishar went into the congnitive realm. So he is somewhere close to Lasting Integrity in the cognitive realm. I believe that Ishar was the other Herald there for the capturing of BAM and that the radiants gave him the perfect gem that holds BAM. Because if he has it, Shallan and Adolin could get it from him within the ten days as he is right outside Lasting Integrity. But there is more, near the end of RoW dead eyes started gathering outside Lasting Integrity. The honorspren said it was because they were finally going to get justice, but what if instead they were drawn to BAM. Because again acording to Kalak dead eyes only occured after BAM's capture and said that BAM was conected to all of Roshar including spren. So the dead eyes could still be connected to BAM enough that they are drawn to where she is. In that case it would mean that BAM was near the border of Tukar and Emul, right where Ishar was, waiting for Dalinar. In sumation, another Herald was at BAM's capture, dead eyes who only exist because of BAM's capture are flocking to Tukar and Emul's border where Ishar is, Ishar went through a perpindicularity and is now right outside Lasting Integrity, and there are only ten days left for Adolin and Shallan to find and free BAM. The only logical thing is that Ishar has BAM. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustration Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 Just now, Aspiring Writer said: Nope. RIght here. And I quoted the second post he made, not the first. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waffles Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 If this is the case was it ishtar that sent a bunch of sprenless humans into the cognitive realm to attack spren (per Adolins and Maya's fight scene) and collect them for his experiments? That would neatly close a seemingly unrelated mystery. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitch Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 We still don't know if book 5 will take place over 10 days, or if the contest will end up being blown over and end at the first or second part. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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