Shob the Voidbringer Posted January 6, 2021 Report Share Posted January 6, 2021 so, when shards are shattered, they leave behind a cognitive shadow, and we don't know what happened to Adonalsium's, and finally, i remember a WoB saying that there was a reason for the 17th shard organization being called that, so my theory is that Adonalsium's cognitive shadow merged with frost, the leader of the 17th shard. alternatively, Adonalsium's cognitive shadow is secretly leading the 17th shard Thoughts? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonewalker16 Posted January 6, 2021 Report Share Posted January 6, 2021 It makes sense, but from what we've seen, Frost would have had to be at the Shattering (or very close) to be able to bond to the CS. However, if the Shattering also released a burst of Investiture, it's possible the CS could have used this to survive longer. However, I don't know that a CS can bond with a human (or dragon) without killing the host like the Fused do. It could be different with dragons, or it could be possible that the Fused are trying to kill them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thanatos Posted January 6, 2021 Report Share Posted January 6, 2021 Uncle Andy's CS is the corpse we call the CR. Etc etc (Not being serious, but kinda am). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shard of Reading Posted January 6, 2021 Report Share Posted January 6, 2021 I don't know about it being frost, but I like the idea about everything else. Also, when I first saw this I thought it was a theory about this forum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonewalker16 Posted January 6, 2021 Report Share Posted January 6, 2021 16 minutes ago, Shard of Reading said: Also, when I first saw this I thought it was a theory about this forum. Actually, a while ago, I remember someone had a theory that WE are the 17th Shard because -We want to know more about the Cosmere -We are actively searching for Hoid and want to know what he is up to -We are Cosmerically aware -We aren't allowed to interfere with the Cosmere -I'm pretty sure Brando named this general site, or at least approved of its name I think they had more points of evidence, but that's all I can remember 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danex Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 12 hours ago, Shob the Voidbringer said: so, when shards are shattered, they leave behind a cognitive shadow, and we don't know what happened to Adonalsium's, and finally, i remember a WoB saying that there was a reason for the 17th shard organization being called that, so my theory is that Adonalsium's cognitive shadow merged with frost, the leader of the 17th shard. alternatively, Adonalsium's cognitive shadow is secretly leading the 17th shard Thoughts? I think you’re jumping to quite a few conclusions here. 1. We don’t know that shattered shards always leave a cognitive shadow, it happened with Leras because he had a very slow and protracted death. It kinda happened with Honor and the Stormfather, but not really. 2. From the information I found, Frost isn’t the leader of the 17th shard. The most info I could find was that he was ‘associated’ with them. That makes it sound like he isn’t even a member at all. 3. Leading the Seventeenth Shard (I think most people use ‘17th’ to refer to the website and ‘Seventeenth’ to refer to the workshopping group btw) to do what? They mainly have a policy of non-intervention, basically just scholars. What would the most powerful being in the Cosmere want with a group of scholars that don’t do anything? 10 hours ago, stonewalker16 said: I'm pretty sure Brando named this general site, or at least approved of its name Afaik he directly named it. The admins were thinking of naming it something completely different, and they asked Brandon and he said ‘The Seventeenth Shard’. 10 hours ago, stonewalker16 said: Actually, a while ago, I remember someone had a theory that WE are the 17th Shard because -We want to know more about the Cosmere -We are actively searching for Hoid and want to know what he is up to -We are Cosmerically aware -We aren't allowed to interfere with the Cosmere I think that’s just why Brandon chose the name for us. =P 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonewalker16 Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 4 hours ago, Dannex said: 1. We don’t know that shattered shards always leave a cognitive shadow, it happened with Leras because he had a very slow and protracted death. It kinda happened with Honor and the Stormfather, but not really. Have you read Secret History? Spoiler Vin and Ati both entered the Coginitive Realm when they died, and Kelsier said that Vin could have stayed if she wanted. However, they both chose to go to the Beyond 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsdaughter613 Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 30 minutes ago, stonewalker16 said: Have you read Secret History? Hide contents Vin and Ati both entered the Coginitive Realm when they died, and Kelsier said that Vin could have stayed if she wanted. However, they both chose to go to the Beyond The Vessels leave a Shadow. Questionable if the Shard does. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danex Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 hours ago, stonewalker16 said: Have you read Secret History? Hide contents Vin and Ati both entered the Coginitive Realm when they died, and Kelsier said that Vin could have stayed if she wanted. However, they both chose to go to the Beyond 1 hour ago, Kingsdaughter613 said: The Vessels leave a Shadow. Questionable if the Shard does. Yeah, and we don’t even know if Adonalsium had a Shard and a Vessel. He might’ve just been a naturally invested being. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinkoln Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 He might not have been a being, he may have been a force 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thanatos Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 If Uncle Andy created and is everything... then who created the vessel? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezzik Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Thanatos said: If Uncle Andy created and is everything... then who created the vessel? Investiture, if left alone long enough, will gain sentience on its own; similar to if matter is left alone long enough under the right conditions, it will form a black hole. Adonalsium could have been the natural accumulation of investiture after the big bang analogous to the black hole at the center of the galaxy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thanatos Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 Thats what i was hinting at. I dont think it had a vessel. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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