Plum Rhinoceros Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 Journal of Solemnheart, Day Seven Post-Illumination, Taldain Thank you for answering my questions, Azure, as I still have a curious soul. As I have said, I cannot really refute anything you say, just my own intentions. I do not have much desire to claim - as somehow I doubt it would help, and I am already nervous about the security of people's abilities. I do wonder about the honesty of your scanners, however. Redirect claims would be helpful. As to what you specifically asked me: 6 hours ago, Azure Mouse said: (@Plum Rhinoceros, I'm curious; since you were fourth, why even join a train Gecko was on? At the point I first piled the vote, Beagle hadn't responded, and by the time I got back (as I said in thread), it was really late, Gecko was solidly on the way to an execution, and I dislike last minute votes on principle unless necessary so I didn't see a reason to swap trains like that.) At the time... I don't think I noticed whether Gecko was on it, but I do like for there to be alternatives to a single (or even double) execution bandwagon. And I would think that Gecko would have joined any execution train that was not his own at that point. Seeing as I meant to submit this paragraph four hours ago, I do not know how much difference anything else I say makes. I shall continue my research on the sands of Taldain. Farewell. -Solemnheart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure Mouse Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 [OOC: Alright, we're a little under 12 hours to go to cycle close, so here goes. As I've hinted on a previous cycle, I scan actions. I scanned Ostrich last Turn (N3) for reasons and found Ostrich was using a Shardic action. I also know Ostrich claimed to Opal Lion to have done nothing the previous night. That's one thing. The other thing is that I have information on a number of Shards, but the three that remain unknown are: Cultivation, Mercy, and Odium. Honour at al are irrelevant to this as Shattered Shards have no Shardic actions. Moreover, as there are no Shattered Shards (or ones that can be mended, anyway), there is little reason for Cultivation to use a Shardic. I could have been redirected, that's true. If someone Village-side hit me with a redirect, would be good to let me know. And if there is a false claimant among the known Shards, it'd be good to know too. Otherwise, I'd say 2/3rd odds of a hostile Shard look like pretty good odds, don't they?] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet Axolotl Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, Azure Mouse said: [OOC: Alright, we're a little under 12 hours to go to cycle close, so here goes. As I've hinted on a previous cycle, I scan actions. I scanned Ostrich last Turn (N3) for reasons and found Ostrich was using a Shardic action. I also know Ostrich claimed to Opal Lion to have done nothing the previous night. That's one thing. The other thing is that I have information on a number of Shards, but the three that remain unknown are: Cultivation, Mercy, and Odium. Honour at al are irrelevant to this as Shattered Shards have no Shardic actions. Moreover, as there are no Shattered Shards (or ones that can be mended, anyway), there is little reason for Cultivation to use a Shardic. I could have been redirected, that's true. If someone Village-side hit me with a redirect, would be good to let me know. And if there is a false claimant among the known Shards, it'd be good to know too. Otherwise, I'd say 2/3rd odds of a hostile Shard look like pretty good odds, don't they?] Cultivation had no reason whatsoever to use a Shardic action, as there are no Shattered (and healable) Shards currently. Rhino. While I still think Rhino is likely evil as per other mechanics, exeing an evil Shard would be far better. Ostrich unless a village claims to have redirected Mouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quartz Zebra Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 I guess I'd like to hear from Ostrich before I change my vote, but that doesn't seem super great for Ostrich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure Mouse Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 (edited) [OOC: Just a few points of order: -Rhino, the scanners could be lying, yes. But considering you were scanned across two separate Turns by two separate scanners (lets call them A and B, though I have already alluded to who they are in the table), and someone else (C) scanned one of the scanners scanning you (scanception?), I feel like it'd take a lot of Elim coordination or bad luck with redirects for all three to be mistaken. -Technically, Cultivation could've been hoping to put a Shattered Shard back together in the same Turn it has been Shattered. It would help if I'd been able to scan @Fuchsia Ostrich's target too, but unfortunately I can't yet do so. The problem with that is that firing blindly does put Cultivation at risk of being detected by, say, an action scanner.] Edited January 11, 2021 by Azure Mouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opal Lion Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 28 minutes ago, Violet Axolotl said: Rhino. While I still think Rhino is likely evil as per other mechanics, exeing an evil Shard would be far better. Ostrich unless a village claims to have redirected Mouse. @Azure Mouse it was pointed out to me that in the rules: Quote If you’re redirected, you will know because the PM will show your new target. From the rules. I don't know what the results show for your action, but it should let people know if you were redirected as far as I see. Ostrich for dramatics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure Mouse Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just now, Opal Lion said: From the rules. I don't know what the results show for your action, but it should let people know if you were redirected as far as I see. [OOC: God, it's been over a week and I'm still learning how to play this game >> So noted with thanks, then I was not redirected.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet Axolotl Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Opal Lion said: Ostrich for dramatics You were already voting them But that might be the dramatics? *cough* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opal Lion Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just now, Violet Axolotl said: But that might be the dramatics? Yes, yes. That's the dramatics :P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet Axolotl Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 @Scarlet Octopus I see you viewing the thread. I asked before, which planet were you on N2? Just to clear something else up. @little wilson @Elbereth can I get a vote count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure Mouse Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Violet Axolotl said: @Scarlet Octopus I see you viewing the thread. I asked before, which planet were you on N2? Just to clear something else up. @little wilson @Elbereth can I get a vote count? [OOC: Not the mods, but here's my tracker: Quote Rhino (8): Axolotl<1>, Hyena, Mouse<1>, Flamingo, Zebra, Albatross, Dingo, Scorpion, Swan, Iguana Ostrich (3): Lion, Mouse<2>, Axolotl<2> ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coral Swan Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 Rhino, Ostrich. Rhino (8): Charcoal Hyena, Onyx Flamingo, Quartz Zebra, Albatross, Dingo, Scorpion, Iguana, Ostrich Fuschia Ostrich (4): Opal Lion, Mouse, Axolotl, Swan Mercy doesn't have nightly Shardic actions and Cultivation can't preemptively heal Shards since Cultivation's Shardic occurs before kills, which would make Ostrich Odium if Mouse is relaying correct information. Removing Odium as opposed to a different elim doesn't accomplish a whole lot because they can pass the Shard off to a teammate by Investing in them before dying but that's still something. We can at least make sure one of these two dies even if Mercy gets involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure Mouse Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just now, Coral Swan said: Rhino, Ostrich. Rhino (8): Charcoal Hyena, Onyx Flamingo, Quartz Zebra, Albatross, Dingo, Scorpion, Iguana, Ostrich Fuschia Ostrich (4): Opal Lion, Mouse, Axolotl, Swan Mercy doesn't have nightly Shardic actions and Cultivation can't preemptively heal Shards since Cultivation's Shardic occurs before kills, which would make Ostrich Odium if Mouse is relaying correct information. Removing Odium as opposed to a different elim doesn't accomplish a whole lot because they can pass the Shard off to a teammate by Investing in them before dying but that's still something. We can at least make sure one of these two dies even if Mercy gets involved. [OOC: Slight point of order - Mercy does have an indiscriminate hoover nightly Shard action. Quote During the night, Mercy may target a player. All actions that would have targeted that player now target Mercy. Could be used as an interrupt, though Mercy definitely does not want to intercept a kill. Good point about Cultivation's Shardic - I misread OoA and stand corrected. This looks more and more fishy then.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coral Swan Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Azure Mouse said: OOC: Slight point of order - Mercy does have an indiscriminate hoover nightly Shard action. You're right. Only read the first part of the Shardic action where it talked about a day action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quartz Zebra Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 Okay, going to switch from Rhino to Ostrich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little wilson Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Violet Axolotl said: can I get a vote count? Plum Rhinoceros (6): Amethyst Scorpion, Fuchsia Ostrich, Magenta Albatross, Melon Dingo, Onyx Flamingo, Saffron Iguana Fuchsia Ostrich (5): Azure Mouse, Coral Swan, Opal Lion, Quartz Zebra, Violet Axolotl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opal Lion Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, little wilson said: Plum Rhinoceros (6): Amethyst Scorpion, Fuchsia Ostrich, Magenta Albatross, Melon Dingo, Onyx Flamingo, Saffron Iguana Fuchsia Ostrich (5): Azure Mouse, Coral Swan, Opal Lion, Quartz Zebra, Violet Axolotl 2 hours ago, Violet Axolotl said: Cultivation had no reason whatsoever to use a Shardic action, as there are no Shattered (and healable) Shards currently. Rhino. While I still think Rhino is likely evil as per other mechanics, exeing an evil Shard would be far better. Ostrich unless a village claims to have redirected Mouse. @little wilson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little wilson Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Opal Lion said: @little wilson Hmm? That's what it says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opal Lion Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just now, little wilson said: Hmm? That's what it says. *squint* suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivory Dragonfly Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 (edited) *cough* you missed editing the numbers *cough* There you go, definitely mistaking thins opal Edited January 11, 2021 by Ivory Dragonfly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little wilson Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Opal Lion said: *squint* suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure yeah I'm sure I don't know what you mean here. Check your quote - even that shows the right vote count...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little wilson Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Ivory Dragonfly said: *cough* you missed editing the numbers *cough* .................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivory Dragonfly Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just now, little wilson said: .................. I saw nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little wilson Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just now, Ivory Dragonfly said: I saw nothing Much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amethyst Scorpion Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 ɪ ʙᴏᴛʜ ᴀᴄᴛᴜᴀʟʟʏ ꜰᴇᴇʟ ᴛʜᴇ ᴀʀɢᴜᴍᴇɴᴛ ꜰᴏʀ ᴏꜱᴛʀɪᴄʜ ʙᴇɪɴɢ ᴏᴅɪᴜᴍ ɪꜱ ꜱᴛʀᴏɴɢᴇʀ ᴛʜᴀɴ ʀʜɪɴᴏ ᴀꜱ ʙᴇɪɴɢ ᴏᴅɪᴜᴍ'ꜱ ɪɴᴠᴇꜱᴛᴇᴇ ꜰᴏʀ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴘʀᴇᴠɪᴏᴜꜱ ᴄʏᴄʟᴇ, ᴀɴᴅ ʙᴇᴄᴀᴜꜱᴇ ᴀ ꜱʜᴏᴛ ᴀᴛ ᴛᴀᴋɪɴɢ ᴏᴜᴛ ᴏᴅɪᴜᴍ ɪꜱ ᴀ ʙᴇᴛᴛᴇʀ ᴏᴜᴛᴄᴏᴍᴇ ᴛʜᴀɴ ᴛᴀᴋɪɴɢ ᴏᴜᴛ ᴀɴ ɪɴᴠᴇꜱᴛᴇᴇ, ɪ'ʟʟ ᴄʜᴀɴɢᴇ ᴍʏ ᴠᴏᴛᴇ ꜰʀᴏᴍ ʀʜɪɴᴏ ᴛᴏ ᴏꜱᴛʀɪᴄʜ. ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴛɪᴍᴇ ᴡɪʟʟ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ᴛᴏ ᴡᴀɪᴛ, ʀʜɪɴᴏ - ꜱᴇᴇᴍꜱ ᴏꜱᴛʀɪᴄʜ ʜᴀꜱ ᴀɴ ᴇᴀʀʟɪᴇʀ ᴀᴘᴘᴏɪɴᴛᴍᴇɴᴛ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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