Sage Kangaroo Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 I think I'll add a vote to Gecko. Elim!Mercy seems reasonably likely and this turn is our chance to kill Gecko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivory Dragonfly Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 Right, Gecko. I'd not realised I hadn't already added my vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyx Flamingo Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 i'll go ahead and switch my vote!! axolotl gecko i meant to earlier, just got distracted!! hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure Mouse Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) Spoiler Investiture: During the day, Odium can target another player, investing them with Odium’s power. During the night, the invested player can target a player not holding a Shard, killing them. If the invested player targets a Shard (including splintered Shards), the attack appears the same as if the person was protected. Unlike Odium, the investee may target any player regardless of world. @Plum Rhinoceros Emphases mine. For there to have been a kill, Team Odium must needs a player who can wield the kill. Unless you're roleclaiming otherwise, you are a logical suspect because you fit the prerequisites for the kill. As do I. As does Axolotl. Edited to add: Rhino, Gecko because I probably won't be back before the rollover. [OOC] Edited January 7, 2021 by Azure Mouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taupe Gecko Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 Rhino, though it dosn’t look like theirs much hope for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amber Vulture Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 Quote "okay mistah bird of prey, i shall answer your sushpishuns here, as i cud not reply in time before the cycle closed." Quote There are three factors in this. First, the order of votes was Gecko (tieing Croc and Kangaroo, after vote manipulation is taken into account), Elephant (putting Croc in the lead), and Kangaroo (equalising again). That means that Gecko, as an Elim would have seen the vote as a coin flip, with a 50% chance that their save wouldn't work and have suspicion cast on Gecko as well. Elephant, by contrast, could have felt comfortable in the thought that saving a teammate would not be immediately noticed. "coulda shifted to kanga then? if im oc, why wouldai take a chance, a 50 percent chance of saving a fella oc at the risk of sush on me. thats one more elim identity at risk ta be revealed." This is false - as of the time that you removed your vote, you put Kangaroo as the leading candidate (after vote manipulation was taken into account.) It's only through Kangaroo's self-preservation vote after that caused a tie, leading to Croc dying in a coin flip. So the short answer is, you didn't vote on Kangaroo, because at that moment, you didn't need to. Quote Quote (The main flaw with this plan is to ask why Elephant didn't remove his vote sooner, when it would cast less suspicion, instead of in the final 5 minutes of the cycle. I suspect it may be because they simply weren't online until then. Their previous post was 10 hours before rollover, when Crocodile and Kangaroo were tied on 3 votes each.) "issa false. i was on before. here is da proof. i had a pm with mistah ocho - scarlet octopus (the only one i had in d1) courteshy of old Prudie. the posht you refer, in which i changed my vote shows ta me as at dec 30, 07:56am. ive sent a message to mistah ocho at dec 30, 07:02am. a whole 54 mins before i poshted da posht. i was defo online before that, but dis is da earliest i was can prove i was on. ask @Scarlet Octopus. 54 mins gap. ocho. check it. Fair. This does lesson my suspicion of you a fair bit. (Thanks Octopus for confirming this as well.) For that reason, I'll add my vote to the train on Taupe Gecko. Quote "posht like this takes time. especshully for the final para where i had to go front and back through the thread to check who gave what reashuns ta vote. meanin i typed up the posht as and when i was analysin da thread. shure, it said "taupe gecko has replied show reply" when sumwon says somethin when yar typin somethin. but i never click on show reply becosh i did it once while writing a big posht, and the shard got hungry and ate it off. issa rule of da shard. the bigger the posht, the hungrier the shard. there ish a 11 min gap between geckos and my posht, but issa valid becosh i had to go run a chore in between as well." "so i completely missed geckos vote. issa evident when i asked in da night cycle that there be another fella on braize who vote for kanga as in my mind it was a 2 vote difference." "and now im defo more sushpishus of gecko. not only vote removed from them. not only vote added to beagle. but both those plus the mershy's investing. all three together plus gecko forgettin that they were inveshted? too much coincidence. there be a propper effort to save them. issa good for fellas with kill items ta use on them." This is a fair point. I could say Elim!Elephant was monitoring the thread and had a vote switch prepared if there was a chance of saving Croc which you wouldn't post otherwise, but that's definitely grasping at straws, and I don't think I really believe it, thinking about it. (There's also the possibility of both Gecko and Elephant being Elims, but I find it highly unlikely that 2 Elims would both cast suspicion on themselves Day 1.) Opal Lion, Bearer of the Shard of Prudence, Keeper of PM's, could I please have a PM with Azure Mouse? I want to hear what this process of Elimination is that Mouse mentioned, because I had a mild trust on Axolotl before this, and was neutral on Rhino and Mouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opal Lion Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 35 minutes ago, Amber Vulture said: Opal Lion, Bearer of the Shard of Prudence, Keeper of PM's, could I please have a PM with Azure Mouse? I want to hear what this process of Elimination is that Mouse mentioned, because I had a mild trust on Axolotl before this, and was neutral on Rhino and Mouse. (next time the GMs look at my PM? ye.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure Mouse Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Amber Vulture said: Opal Lion, Bearer of the Shard of Prudence, Keeper of PM's, could I please have a PM with Azure Mouse? I want to hear what this process of Elimination is that Mouse mentioned, because I had a mild trust on Axolotl before this, and was neutral on Rhino and Mouse. [OOC: Ngl I'm considering saying it out in the thread simpliciter. I've been hinting really strongly at it right now and I think a decent chunk of the Village right now are being embarrassingly childish in trying to ostrich their way through this one. It's not rocket science, the Elims already likely have guessed what I'm hinting at, and there's really nothing in keeping this back except self-pleasuring, for which tools exist. Secrecy isn't my hobby and I don't see the need to do it here. But can we still have that PM, or do I need to bribe you into one with the promise of an explanation? ] Edited January 7, 2021 by Azure Mouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivory Dragonfly Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 Oh! Penguin and i do be speaking and there was a thought had! Anyone feel like seeing what our delightful gms would show up as from an awakened scanny snan? Are they shards? are they greater than shards? What is greater than deific! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taupe Gecko Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Ivory Dragonfly said: Oh! Penguin and i do be speaking and there was a thought had! Anyone feel like seeing what our delightful gms would show up as from an awakened scanny snan? Are they shards? are they greater than shards? What is greater than deific! I am very curious bout this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chartreuse Penguin Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 I am very curious bout this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure Mouse Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 I am very curious bout this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapphire Elephant Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 "errrr rollover?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure Mouse Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 Just now, Sapphire Elephant said: "errrr rollover?" Been pushed back permanently by an hour for the GMs' welfare and mental health. You alright there mate. Had a bit too much to drink? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapphire Elephant Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 13 minutes ago, Azure Mouse said: Been pushed back permanently by an hour for the GMs' welfare and mental health. You alright there mate. Had a bit too much to drink? "do ya even hafta ask? lookatme looookatmeeee! ohandithoughtitwasaonetimethingnotapermanentpushbackmybad" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivory Dragonfly Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 That's a lot of words in one breath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure Mouse Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sapphire Elephant said: "do ya even hafta ask? lookatme looookatmeeee! ohandithoughtitwasaonetimethingnotapermanentpushbackmybad" Spoiler Image under cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little wilson Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 The day is now over! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little wilson Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 Night 3: Silverlight PD vs the Great Green Dragon Taupe Gecko (13): Azure Mouse, Charcoal Hyena, Coral Swan, Fuchsia Ostrich, Ivory Dragonfly, Magenta Albatross, Melon Dingo, Onyx Flamingo, Plum Rhinoceros, Quartz Zebra, Saffron Iguana, Sage Kangaroo, Sapphire Elephant, Violet Axolotl Magenta Albatross (2): Turquoise Gorilla Plum Rhinoceros (1): Taupe Gecko Taupe Gecko was removed! They were an Elantrian on Odium’s Champions! The night has begun. It will end at 9 am MST on Saturday, 9 January. Get your orders in! Player List 1. Amber Vulture - (Creative Cook) 2. Amethyst Scorpion - Mort (Deathspren) 3. Azure Mouse - Tenth of the Dusk/Kaikoa (Bounty Hunter) 4. Charcoal Hyena - Soren (Hobbyist (Poet)) 5. Chartreuse Penguin - (Bumblebee) 6. Coral Swan - Enoras (Prophetic) 7. Cream Tuatara - (Prophetic) 8. Fuchsia Ostrich - Konion (Unlucky orphan) 9. Indigo Weasel - Iadhain 'the Weasel' Ramer (Kleptomaniac ) 10. Ivory Dragonfly - Eris (Decisive) 11. Magenta Albatross - Relas (Distracted) 12. Mauve Crocodile - Siena Ashao (Unlucky)Forger 13. Melon Dingo - Niru Drash (Insane-Egomaniac-Scholar) 14. Mint Heron - Nihalin (Hobbyist)Original Prudence 15. Onyx Flamingo - (Excitable) 16. Opal Lion - Remy (Hobbyist) 17. Oxblood Beagle - Lady Orchid (Gossip)Endowment 18. Pearl Chameleon - (Compulsive Gambler) 19. Plum Rhinoceros - Solemnheart (Returned-Amnesiac-Scholar) 20. Quartz Zebra - Sophos (Bad Stormwarden) 21. Saffron Iguana - Vatorr Maj (Tinker) 22. Sage Kangaroo - Arleoxtai Ashvtet (Gossip) 23. Sapphire Elephant - Al (Drunk) 24. Scarlet Octopus - () 25. Taupe Gecko - Aurora (Bad Human)Elantrian 26. Turquoise Gorilla - () 27. Violet Axolotl - Sir Brockett (Elderly) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet Axolotl Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 Guess elim!Mercy is confirmed... or as close as it could be. I'm not really suspicious of those who didn't vote Gecko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure Mouse Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, little wilson said: Taupe Gecko (12): Azure Mouse, Charcoal Hyena, Coral Swan, Fuchsia Ostrich, Ivory Dragonfly, Magenta Albatross, Melon Dingo, Onyx Flamingo, Plum Rhinoceros, Saffron Iguana, Sage Kangaroo, Sapphire Elephant, Violet Axolotl [13] Magenta Albatross (2): Turquoise Gorilla [OOC: Interesting. I don't think Gecko moved from FotS - can anyone confirm this? If so, we have an extra vote on Magenta Albatross. Could be Culti's investee, if they didn't vote in-thread. If we postulate the same Elim Lightweaver from D3, things get messy since we have a further nullification to factor in - suppose they voted on Gecko. Changing a vote off Gecko gives us +1 to Magenta Albatross at the cost of -2 to the total of 13. If Gecko is still on FotS, -1. A bit too messy, though we could always have complex vote shenanigan interactions. Edited to add: Okay. Suppose our Lightweaver didn't vote and swapped a vote off Gecko to Albatross. If so, we have a one vote deficit. So the possibilities: A) Culti's Investee Sends In Secret Vote on Albatross (A+1) Gecko is on FotS (G-1) = A(2), G(12) B ) Elim Lightweaver voted on Gecko and removes vote off Gecko to Albatross (G-2) Gecko is on FotS (G-1) Note: We now have 10 Gecko votes and are required to postulate Culti's Investee (G+1) and Autonomy (G+1) both voted on Gecko for the numbers to tally. A bit too complicated. C) Elim Lightweaver Didn't Vote, Swapped Off Gecko To Albatross (G-1, A+1) Gecko is on FotS (G-1) Autonomy voted on Gecko (G+1) = A(2), G(12) Personally I favour A or C, no knowledge of which. I favour C slightly more because this shows a common/unchanged MO from the Elim Lightweaver (how do they have enough charges, though?) If we have some idea if whether Autonomy did vote, and on whom, I think we could begin to make sense of the possibilities. C is especially compelling because...a lot of players voted. 15 out of 23. Edited to add #2: Alright, there's technically another possibility where Culti's Investee swaps off Gecko, but this is not fundamentally different from the Elim Lightweaver case, just with the names swapped. There still is something helpful about the possibility, of course.] Edited January 7, 2021 by Azure Mouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chartreuse Penguin Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 Suppose I Personally favour knowledge of which elim voted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet Axolotl Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 Just now, Chartreuse Penguin said: Suppose I Personally favour knowledge of which elim voted Then we all would be intrigued Though remember that the OCs can protect someone from the exe tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure Mouse Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Violet Axolotl said: Though remember that the OCs can protect someone from the exe tomorrow. Tenth of the Dusk supposed this was true. And at this point, he suspected it would work only once: he wondered if Mercy might going forwards try to shield even those of Adonalsium from the execution. Even a stay of execution harmed them and helped the Odious. Forcing everyone to guess or redo the execution seemed rather merciless to Tenth. [OOC: Wouldn't be surprised if she starts doing it just to mess with us since we've had one success with Gecko. In truth, even delaying the execution on our side technically helps the Elims since it lets them rack up free kills assuming no successful protects. Given the rock-paper-scissors nature of the kills in this game, I suppose it's more likely it'll be a protracted thing since they could miskill too. On the bright side, Mercy can't save herself or Odium or any other Shards on that team that way Also, I think the simplest answer is Autonomy voted on Albatross and Gecko remained on FotS - I've been re-checking with the GMs and my assumption that Autonomy had to be on the same Shardworld to vote on someone is false, so that's not an issue here.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet Axolotl Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 @Azure Mouse, what's FotS mean? I feel like to really understand what you're saying I should know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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