lizbusby Posted December 18, 2020 Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 (edited) Apologies to everyone who entered the betting pool for falling down on the job of posting the answers! Shortly after the book release, we decided to move our family cross-state and this was one of the balls that got dropped. What betting pool? This one: https://forms.gle/LGjkJZeri4EPUotX7 Your guesses are "grade your own", but I'm compiling a list of answers. It's been a while since I finished the book, so I need some help checking the accuracy of these answers, particularly the bolded ones below, which I am super not sure about. I'm also not sure who counts as the main characters in each plot arc. Is there a standard agreement on it? Radiant Oaths on screen (5 pts, -2 over/under): 5 Kaladin Shallan Venli Navani R'lain 4th Ideal (2 pts): Yes Stonewards (2 pts): Yes Bondsmiths (2 pts): Yes, bonded to the Sibling Side character spren (10 pts): R'lain, Navani Unmade (5 pts, -2 over/under): 1 (Sja'Anat) Unmade captured (5 pts, -2 over/under): 0 Heralds killed (5 pts, -2 over/under): 0 Shallan personalities (2 pts): 2 Urithiru functional (2 pts): Yes Character death (10 pts): Teft, Phendorana, Rayse, Lezian, Raboniel New worldhoppers (10 pts): Axindweth, Gerrah, Nalthian caravan Lift steals food from (5 pts): Song New romantic pairing (10 pts): Jasnah/Wit, Lift/Song, Renarin/R'lain Primary plot characters (1 pt each): Urithiru Plot (Navani, Kaladin, Venli, Moash, Teft/Dabid/Bridge Four) Secondary plot characters (1 pt each): Shallan, Adolin Tertiary plot characters (1 pts each): Jasnah, Dalinar Hoid story (5 pts): Kaladin Shameful ribbon (10 pt, -1 over/under): 105 Edited December 27, 2020 by lizbusby Added additional character deaths 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+King of Herdaz Posted December 18, 2020 Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 Didn't Navani swear an oath to the Sibling? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizbusby Posted December 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, King of Herdaz said: Didn't Navani swear an oath to the Sibling? Excellent point. Adding. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustration Posted December 18, 2020 Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 We did not see a Stoneward Oath Venli is a Willshaper. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsdaughter613 Posted December 18, 2020 Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 Kelsier is not a worldhopper. That’s the point of some of the GBs actions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizbusby Posted December 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 19 hours ago, Ookla The Frustrated said: We did not see a Stoneward Oath Venli is a Willshaper. The Stoneward question was about if we would see a modern Stoneward (aka not Taln), which we did. 19 hours ago, Kingsdaughter613 said: Kelsier is not a worldhopper. That’s the point of some of the GBs actions. Good point. Stricken. Does someone want to find the names of the ferruchemists/terrispeople/Selish people we saw? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsdaughter613 Posted December 18, 2020 Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 4 hours ago, lizbusby said: Good point. Stricken. Does someone want to find the names of the ferruchemists/terrispeople/Selish people we saw? Axindweth and Gerrah, for the Terrisfolk. There was a caravan of Nalthians, but I don’t think we got their names. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizbusby Posted December 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2020 Looks like these are the final answers. Start posting your scores and claim your future sight! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+King of Herdaz Posted December 20, 2020 Report Share Posted December 20, 2020 Does Navani count as a side character swearing Ideals? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizbusby Posted December 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2020 On 12/20/2020 at 5:39 AM, King of Herdaz said: Does Navani count as a side character swearing Ideals? I would say yes because up until this book, Navani was not a main character. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+King of Herdaz Posted December 23, 2020 Report Share Posted December 23, 2020 In that case, my score is 45 points. I can provide a breakdown later if you want. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciridae Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 On 23/12/2020 at 0:48 AM, King of Herdaz said: In that case, my score is 45 points. I can provide a breakdown later if you want. Nice, I only got 30 This was fun, great job on the guessing game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banazir864 Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 Additional character deaths: Rayse and Phendorana (also Raboniel and the Pursuer, but I don't think they count since I'm pretty sure they were never introduced before). Admittedly they'd both be hard to guess, but I could see someone getting bold and guessing that Rayse would be killed. It's also the first time we see Eshonai's actual death onscreen, but we already knew she died (and it's in a flashback anyway), so I don't think that counts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+King of Herdaz Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, Banazir864 said: Additional character deaths: Rayse and Phendorana (also Raboniel and the Pursuer, but I don't think they count since I'm pretty sure they were never introduced before). Admittedly they'd both be hard to guess, but I could see someone getting bold and guessing that Rayse would be killed. It's also the first time we see Eshonai's actual death onscreen, but we already knew she died (and it's in a flashback anyway), so I don't think that counts. I did this after reading most of the preview chapters and I guessed, correctly, that Lezian would die 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+King of Herdaz Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 (edited) Actually, I scored 54 points My responses: How many Radiant oaths will be sworn? 6 (3 points) Will we see a modern Stoneward in this book? yes (2 points) Will Kaladin swear the fourth Ideal? Yes (2 points) Will we see additional Bondsmiths in this book? Yes, bonded to the Sibling. (2 points) Name a side character who will bond a spren. Navani (10 points) How many Unmade will be seen? 3 (1 point) How many Unmade will be captured? 0 (5 points) How many Heralds will be killed by the end of the book? 0 (5 points) How many personalities will Shallan have at the end of the book? 4 (0 points) Will Urithiru become fully functional by the end of the book? Yes (2 points) Name a character who will die in this book. Lezian (10 points) Name a new world-hopper character who will appear in this book. Khriss (0 points) Name a character whose food Lift will steal. Kaladin (0 points) Name a new romantic pairing that will appear in this book. I left this blank (0 points) Five Characters, Primary Plot Dalinar, Venli, Hoid, Jasnah, Kaladin (2 points) Two Characters, Secondary Plot Shallan, Mraize (1 point) Two Characters, Tertiary Plot Navani, the Sibling (0 points) Who will Hoid tell a story to in this book? Kaladin (5 points) In what chapter of the book will the phrase "shameful ribbon" appear? 108 (4 points) Did you read the preview chapters? Yes Have you read the back cover copy? No Have you read the Dawnshard novel? No (I hope I'm not breaking the no double posting rule with this, I just think it makes more sense to have this in its own post) Edited December 24, 2020 by King of Herdaz formatting mess up 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizbusby Posted December 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 Y'all are way better than me. My score was 20 points. Top points in my friend group was 27, so not terrible, but the Diagram isn't going to be recruiting us any time soon.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solant Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 I don't play games like this, because it's too close to trying to see into the future, which everyone knows is blasphemy, and my Vorin sensibilities won't allow it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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