heylukeatthat Posted December 12, 2020 Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) Quote "We'll add a line to the contract," Wit said, "naming me as a contractual liaison for Honor--whom Dalinar represents. This will protect me from Odium's direct attacks for the life of the contract. He will *have* to abide by those terms, as they are part of the promise Rayse made by taking up the shard of Odium. To fail that promise would give others an opening against him, and said failures have killed gods before. Odium knows it. So do this, and I can help you openly. As myself." Todium seems to be still bound by that promise and those terms, right? ("it seems my precesessor's agreements will allow me to...") More interesting to me is "*said failures have killed gods before.*" We know of four dead gods (Honor, Devotion, Dominion, Ambition). Wit (and Brandon) don't use words lightly. One of those four was killed because they moved against another shard. Of those four deaths, Ambition seems most likely, especially given the RoW reveal that Mercy was there ("where Ambition, Mercy, and Odium clashed—and Ambition was destroyed.") that has us all reeling. I view Wit's comment as support for the theory that Ambition moved against Mercy and that breach of protocol allowed Odium to destroy her. Edited December 12, 2020 by heylukeatthat quote formatting 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basement_boi Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 On 12/12/2020 at 2:19 PM, heylukeatthat said: Todium seems to be still bound by that promise and those terms, right? ("it seems my precesessor's agreements will allow me to...") More interesting to me is "*said failures have killed gods before.*" We know of four dead gods (Honor, Devotion, Dominion, Ambition). Wit (and Brandon) don't use words lightly. One of those four was killed because they moved against another shard. Of those four deaths, Ambition seems most likely, especially given the RoW reveal that Mercy was there ("where Ambition, Mercy, and Odium clashed—and Ambition was destroyed.") that has us all reeling. I view Wit's comment as support for the theory that Ambition moved against Mercy and that breach of protocol allowed Odium to destroy her. The failure was actually Preservation. He was willingly going against an Oath he made with Ruin. This allowed Ruin to eventually kill him in Hero of Ages. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewsTherinTelescope Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 2 hours ago, basement_boi said: The failure was actually Preservation. He was willingly going against an Oath he made with Ruin. This allowed Ruin to eventually kill him in Hero of Ages. Could be, though I'd note Leras still considers himself bound by and in compliance with the deal (SH 3.1): Quote “It can’t be stopped. The deal…” “Deals can be broken.” “Not these kinds of deals, Kelsier. I was able to trick Ruin before, lock him away, by fooling him with our agreement. But that wasn’t a breach of contract, more leaving a hole in the agreement to be exploited. This time there are no holes.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanLemon Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 It might be Dominion and Devotion, afterall Endowment said they broke the deal since the beginning 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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