Tacitus Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 'The chaining of a Shadowblaze, fourth entity removed, is an often indeterminable process, and the bindagent should consider wisely the situation before making any decision regarding the vessels to be indentured.' This is the paragraph I will be milking for all it's worth. I was reading the rithmatist, saw this, and thought to myself, 'Fourth entity removed'? At first I saw this more as like how people are related (Ex: Fourth cousin, twice removed), but that didn't quite make sense. So if a Shadowblaze is the fourth entity removed, where or what is it removed from? My basic idea is the Tower, but that's not heavily supported. If the Shadowblaze is the fourth (Rithmatic?) entity removed from the tower, their must be at least 3 more. Categorizations of creatures: I began to categorize forgotten, Shadowblazes, and actually, wild chalklings. Here's what I got: Shadowblaze (Fourth entity removed): Bonded to people (Vessels) to create rithmatists? [This bonding is important] When bound to vessel, vessel- is made a rithmatist/body preserved/vessel remains in control Forgotten: Bonded to people (Possesion) When bound to vessel, vessel-is made a rithmatist/body preserved/vessel loses control Wild chalkling? (I was wondering what the other entities of the four we know exist may be, and remembered warbreaker, and the categorization of awakened objects. So what if the body of the vessel wasn't preserved?) Wild chalkling: Bonded to people to create wild chalklings? When 'bound' to vessel, vessel- body removed/ vessel loses control If this proves true, than the other entity would likely be: Entity: when bonded to vessel, vessel- Body removed/ vessel remains in control Just some thoughts and ideas I had, but there's a chance they could prove to be somewhat true. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticSpren Posted June 9, 2021 Report Share Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) I like this theory a lot: after all, Rithmatics was originally supposed to mirror other Cosmere magic systems. I assume that by "categorization of awakened objects" you mean biochromatic entities. However, I'm hesitant to believe in this theory since Nalizar doesn't really seem to be a Forgotten. I know Coppermind suggests that he is, but Nalizar's chalk entity isn't totally destroyed by acid and is a lot more intelligent than Harding's Forgotten. However, Nalizar's body is also kept and his consciousness is removed, like a forgotten. Edited June 9, 2021 by CrypticSpren Grammar 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindy Moon Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 I love this! It kinda fits with others things in Sanderson's magic systems. Rithmatist was originally going to be a Cosmere book, so I'm assuming the magic system shares some basic elements. Below is a Mistborn spoiler. Spoiler Mistborn has a similar thing with Kandra and Koloss. It feels like it fits together. I need to reread it (for the tenth time) and see what I can find. I've been making notes, but I need to write them in a notebook instead of in the actual book. On 6/8/2021 at 10:01 PM, CrypticSpren said: However, I'm hesitant to believe in this theory since Nalizar doesn't really seem to be a Forgotten. I know Coppermind suggests that he is, but Nalizar's chalk entity isn't totally destroyed by acid and is a lot more intelligent than Harding's Forgotten. However, Nalizar's body is also kept and his consciousness is removed, like a forgotten. He could be a subcategory of Forgotten? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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