Prince of Ravens

Plate and Lesser Spren

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Spoilers from RoW, obviously.

 

So Windrunners plate is made out of windspren. But what about other orders? What are lesser sprens of Cryptics and Inkspren that can form into plate? We have seen confirmation that Jasnah swore 4th ideal, but we didn't get a description of what kind of spren made her plate. Any speculation?

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This development has been predicted for years now, so the list ahead is less "my theories" and more "the conclusions fandom seems to agree upon". The ? Marks more uncertain areas.

Bondsmith- gloryspren

Elsecaller- logicspren (?)

Lightweaver- creativityspren (?)

Edgedancer- lifespren

The rest I don't know/ haven't heard theories about.

 

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8 minutes ago, LiftIRL said:

This development has been predicted for years now, so the list ahead is less "my theories" and more "the conclusions fandom seems to agree upon". The ? Marks more uncertain areas.

Bondsmith- gloryspren

Elsecaller- logicspren (?)

Lightweaver- creativityspren (?)

Edgedancer- lifespren

The rest I don't know/ haven't heard theories about.

 

Sounds like those are a sure thing. But it's kinda strange how little we know of other orders. Peakspren for stonewards and Mistspren was it for Truthwatchers? Can't handle next few years not knowing.

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11 hours ago, Prince of Ravens said:

Sounds like those are a sure thing. But it's kinda strange how little we know of other orders. Peakspren for stonewards and Mistspren was it for Truthwatchers? Can't handle next few years not knowing.

Could probably ask Brandon to list the ones he's comfortable with telling us now that it's been confirmed that plate is cousin spren.

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This was discussed in a few different threads before the book came out. Here's one:

Once the Herald portraits came out, it was clear that each was surrounded by their order's cousin spren. The list below seems to have been the consensus. I think the first 7 are definite, but the final 3 are still somewhat unclear.

  • Bondsmith: gloryspren
  • Windrunner: windspren
  • Skybreakers: luckspren / Mandras
  • Dustbringers: flamespren
  • Edgedancer: lifespren
  • Truthwatchers: logicspren
  • Lightweaver: creationspren
  • Elsecallers: Unknown
  • Willshapers: laughterspren
  • Stonewards: painspren? exhaustionspren?
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Luckspren? Last I theorized, that was not the consensus. The spren on Nale's portrait have been confirmed to be the blue ones, and mandras are not blue. The rest of the list is sound. Although there are those who would argue that each fatspren has a different cousinspren.

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  • Bondsmiths - Gloryspren?
  • Windrunners - Windspren
  • Skybreakers - Starspren?
  • Dustbringers - Flamespren?
  • Edgedancers - Keenspren?
  • Truthwatchers - Rainspren?
  • Lightweavers - Creationspren?
  • Elsecallers - Logicspren?
  • Willshapers - Musicspren?
  • Stonewards - Stonespren?
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Windrunners- Windspren (CONFIRMED)

Skybreakers- Gravitationspren/Gravityspren

Dustbringers- Flamespren/Heatspren/Decayspren

Edgedancers- Lifespren (pretty much confirmed)

Truthwatchers- Rainspren/Concentrationspren

Lightweavers- Creationspren (pretty much confirmed) 

Elsecallers- Logicspren (CONFIRMED)

Willshapers- Musicspren/Stonespren

Stonewards- Groundspren/Bindspren/Stonespren

Bondsmith- Bindspren/Gloryspren/Coldspren-Towerspren

 

  • There were some discussion that Starspren might be also creating Plate but it was revealed they are solitary spren and do not congregate. 

That's pretty much my assumption. Somebody catch Axis to interrogate. 

 

Edited by Ramona Tehradin
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I expect the Stoneward's lesser spren will be the ones that are used to make Half-Shards. I've been calling them Substancespren in my head, but there's probably better names

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I think Skybreakers might actually use Starspren... I mean look at the Highspren the Radiant bonds with... It's literally a bunch of stars...

Besides, how storming cool would that be? :P

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The following seemed pretty obvious to me.

Bondsmiths*: Gloryspren

Windrunners: Windspren

Releasers: Flamespren

Edgedancers: Lifespren

Lightweavers: Creationspren

Elsecallers: Logicspren

As for the others, I suspect

Skybreakers: Gravitationspren/Groundspren

Willshapers: Musicspren

No Rosharan clue what the Truthwatchers and Stonewards get

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We’ve seen windspren use adhesion in pranks. We’ve seen gemstones enhance lifespren, which in turn enhanced plant growth. People on Roshar argue whether or not a spren actually creates what it is named after. All of this points to the idea that cousin spren might each be able to do a different surge.

 Spoiler for Dawnshard:

Spoiler

We’ve seen several occurrences of luckspren using gravitation.

Therefore, I am absolutely sure that luckspren are the cousin spren of skybreakers.

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