Frustration Posted October 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 Lesson 03 Plot twists A plot twist must be completely unexpected, no matter how odd or inconsistent with the rest of the book and foreshadowing it is, the more out there the better the twist. The Author should also make sure to browse all fansites and if one person finds out the twist it should be rewritten. Does the overabundance of speculation and time the audience has make that more a matter of time than an off the chance occurrence? Should careful planning be used both before and after a twist especially in making it work with the already established world of the story? Of course not, that would be stupid. now for a twist. Don't die -Frustration. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspiring Writer Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Frustration said: Lesson 03 Plot twists A plot twist must be completely unexpected, no matter how odd or inconsistent with the rest of the book and foreshadowing it is, the more out there the better the twist. The Author should also make sure to browse all fansites and if one person finds out the twist it should be rewritten. Does the overabundance of speculation and time the audience has make that more a matter of time than an off the chance occurrence? Should careful planning be used both before and after a twist especially in making it work with the already established world of the story? Of course not, that would be stupid. now for a twist. Don't die -Frustration. I'm getting Rian Johnson PTSD flashbacks.. No Rian, don't use your first draft you incompetent goblin... Edited October 27, 2020 by Aspiring Writer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trutharchivist Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 What? I was sure you should make your plot twist obvious and predictable, so that it will seem exactly like any work written before you, because no one likes new things! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustration Posted October 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 9 minutes ago, Trutharchivist said: What? I was sure you should make your plot twist obvious and predictable, so that it will seem exactly like any work written before you, because no one likes new things! That is a second option however an unpopular one, and one I don't like and so is wrong, because my way is the one and on;y way to write! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Experience Posted October 28, 2020 Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 You did it!!!!!!!!!! Now I must read through everything. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspiring Writer Posted October 29, 2020 Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 On 10/28/2020 at 7:39 AM, Experience said: You did it!!!!!!!!!! Now I must read through everything. Good luck. Remember, if you have differing opinions of whatever you read here, your opinion is wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trutharchivist Posted November 3, 2020 Report Share Posted November 3, 2020 Here's another good advice I've just found in the book Deep Secret by Diana Wynne Jones : Quote hard graft. You can’t afford to get carried away, or your book becomes a dangerous, out-of-hand thing and it may not sell.’ I’ll go further,’ says Mervin Thurless. ‘If there is a miracle ingredient, it’s money.’ I have nothing to add but pointing out the practicality in it, much needed in writing books, far more than imagination. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condensation Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 Ooh, good advice. Would you recommend the book? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theTruthshaper Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 Huh, I thought that Riordan had really improved. Even though you could make an argument about him writing in the same world, I felt the specifics were different enough that the books don't feel derivative. Honestly, I never though that Riordan had the guts to kill a main character off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shard of Reading Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 hours ago, The_Truthwatcher said: Huh, I thought that Riordan had really improved. Even though you could make an argument about him writing in the same world, I felt the specifics were different enough that the books don't feel derivative. Honestly, I never though that Riordan had the guts to kill a main character off. Refresh my memory, who did he kill? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspiring Writer Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 58 minutes ago, Shard of Reading said: Refresh my memory, who did he kill? He is probably referring to Jason, when he was a side character in Apollo's story. And proceeded in the next book to make you think Frank burned his stick and killed himself only to find he survived the stick and no longer needs it because he didn't want him to die. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shard of Reading Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Aspiring Writer said: He is probably referring to Jason, when he was a side character in Apollo's story. And proceeded in the next book to make you think Frank burned his stick and killed himself only to find he survived the stick and no longer needs it because he didn't want him to die. Well... Either way, I don't care as long as Leo doesn't die again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trutharchivist Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 13 hours ago, Condensation said: Ooh, good advice. Would you recommend the book? Just finished it. I have found it a little... confusing. I might recommend, but I'd warn you to get ready to a little weirdness. I think it's normal in DWJ books. Besides, be prepared for a magic system that (at least in my opinion) doesn't exactly corresponds with Brandon's laws. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Somebody from Scadrial Posted November 5, 2020 Report Share Posted November 5, 2020 13 hours ago, Trutharchivist said: Just finished it. I have found it a little... confusing. I might recommend, but I'd warn you to get ready to a little weirdness. I think it's normal in DWJ books. Besides, be prepared for a magic system that (at least in my opinion) doesn't exactly corresponds with Brandon's laws. This is not a bad thing (not defending the book haven't read it) but Brandon has said that his laws aren't hard and fast and that it is a case by case bases 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trutharchivist Posted November 5, 2020 Report Share Posted November 5, 2020 I agree - I did like the book myself. It's only that I think many people like Sanderson's books because of the sensible magic systems - my older brother who introduced me to Sanderson is like that, for example. Thus, magic systems like that could make books less interesting to some sander fans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condensation Posted November 6, 2020 Report Share Posted November 6, 2020 On 11/4/2020 at 11:09 AM, Trutharchivist said: Just finished it. I have found it a little... confusing. I might recommend, but I'd warn you to get ready to a little weirdness. I think it's normal in DWJ books. Besides, be prepared for a magic system that (at least in my opinion) doesn't exactly corresponds with Brandon's laws. Okay, good to know! I like magic of all kinds. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Experience Posted February 12, 2021 Report Share Posted February 12, 2021 I am @Frustrationed that this thread has died. Become revived! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condensation Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 Can I write a lesson? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustration Posted February 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 18 minutes ago, Condensation said: Can I write a lesson? Sure 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condensation Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Frustration said: Sure 'Kay, give me a mo'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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