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Feruchemy Metalminds in Modern Scadrial


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In the second trilogy of Mistborn, The southern tribes could store heat in the medallions.  I was reminded about the power of the Firesoul Feruchemists. I was wondering about what the limits of using brass to resist heat is. According to the Coppermind and this WoB it seems that you could wade through fire and be fine. (sorry if this has been discussed before and I didn't see it :D)

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If tapping heat means your own body gets hotter, does it also mean you become immune to hot temperatures so long as you're tapping it, or should you fill heat and grow colder for that to happen?

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As everything in Feruchemy, you become immune to the effects of the ability only. Like weight doesn't crush you, but at the same time doesn't have a net gain in strength. Growing colder, however, would be more helpful in this regard.

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My hypothetical idea is that if someone decided to wade through lava or some other modern method of storing a lot of heat could they be a walking kamikaze bomb by tapping all of that heat at once? It seems like if they had enough heat energy stored then tapping it all at once would probably kill them but they could likely destroy multiple neighborhoods. What limitations are there to filling Metalminds like this?

What about other Metalminds? Besides compounding, which seems like cheating, can you use ways to artificially increase the amount of power that you are storing? For Gasper ferrings could you pump their blood full of too much oxygen with tubes and have them store it?

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2 hours ago, Destruction said:

For Gasper ferrings could you pump their blood full of too much oxygen with tubes and have them store it?

I feel like that would work.


but we dont know if the air just has to be in the body or if it has to be being carried by Haemoglobin.

 

if it is the latter, for years scientists real-world have been working on an implant to deliver oxygen into the blood and get it to the red blood cells before making bubbles(which is bad)

They designed it for medical use for people who cant breath(think during lung transplants, etc...)

now imagine something like that on scadrial, but imagine it were used on a health person who can already breath.

theyd have their own oxygen source(lungs) plus the oxygen coming from the implant to store in their metalmind

Just some random thoughts XD

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Breathing is not just about oxygen. It also removes carbon dioxide. In fact, you'd get into trouble far earlier due to a failure of the latter.

I am afraid we are looking at this too simplistic. We should probably look at feruchemy as some kind of alternate reality

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in fact like a specialised form of Forging

You are turning yourself into an alternate version of yourself who has experienced more of the activity associated with the metal.

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I think doing something like walking on lava (probably not through, lava is really dense) would still be supremely hard.  Lava is so hot that you'd basically need to be absorbing all of that heat immediately and storing it within milliseconds before it could do damage.  fire is a bit cooler, most fires anyway, so that should be a bit easier, but you still basically need to be storing the heat fast enough that it can't damage your body.  you're probably better off just spending time in the desert wearing winter clothes and constantly doing a low grade store.

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This is interesting. Like Iron Man 3, a human bomb. I know Wax does something like this, with is iron. He stores a whole bunch of weight, an then at one point he has to break through a floor, so he taps it all at once and just falls through. I wonder if you could suddenly kill yourself by doing something like this with atium. Store all your youthfulness at once and suddenly you're so old you're dead. It probably doesn't work like that.

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On 9/10/2020 at 2:19 PM, Narcoleptic Axolotl said:

This is interesting. Like Iron Man 3, a human bomb. I know Wax does something like this, with is iron. He stores a whole bunch of weight, an then at one point he has to break through a floor, so he taps it all at once and just falls through. I wonder if you could suddenly kill yourself by doing something like this with atium. Store all your youthfulness at once and suddenly you're so old you're dead. It probably doesn't work like that.

U can't store all ur attribute. 90% at most I think. But yeah still might kill u

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On 10/11/2020 at 8:26 PM, PrinceGenocide said:

U can't store all ur attribute. 90% at most I think. But yeah still might kill u

That's something that would be very good to know (either for theorizing or if you're the kind of person who wants to write fan fictions on Scadrial). Do you remember where you read that? I'd like to know if it's canonically accurate. 

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On 12.10.2020 at 5:26 AM, PrinceGenocide said:

U can't store all ur attribute. 90% at most I think. But yeah still might kill u

Not true, weve seen Sazed and Wax storing all of theirs weight.

Simply in case of other abilities, it is simply impractical. If you will store all of your sight, you will be blind. If you will store all of your spee, you will be not able to move. If you will store all of your health, you will die.

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1 hour ago, Bzhydack said:

Not true, weve seen Sazed and Wax storing all of theirs weight.

Simply in case of other abilities, it is simply impractical. If you will store all of your sight, you will be blind. If you will store all of your spee, you will be not able to move. If you will store all of your health, you will die.

If you needed to impersonate a statue, storing all your speed is a great cheat.

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On 13/10/2020 at 8:37 PM, Bzhydack said:

Not true, weve seen Sazed and Wax storing all of theirs weight.

Simply in case of other abilities, it is simply impractical. If you will store all of your sight, you will be blind. If you will store all of your spee, you will be not able to move. If you will store all of your health, you will die.

All the weight? I think you were wrong. This never happened.

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