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So it's 10pm Pacific time on June 25th, and Dark One is coming out on ebook tomorrow, June 26th. Time to make our Dark One forum! I'm not entirely sure when the ebook will fall out, so here's your official spoilery reaction topic! For info on where to preorder and a 29 page sample, see here:

Consider this forum to have spoilers. You do not need to tag topic titles here.

Additionally, last week Brandon said the Dark One stream would be this week, but today Dragonsteel said it was postponed: 

I'll have to get reading on this tomorrow! I imagine Vault comics will send it out via email. Dark One should be our next Shardcast on next Friday.

EDIT: It's still not out yet. Boo :( 

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Apparently it's coming out at 6pm. Timezone unclear at the moment:

EDIT: Just got word that it will be out 6pm Eastern, so about an hour and fifteen minutes from now.

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Haven't received my copy yet, but I'm eagerly awaiting the email. 

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6 minutes ago, Use the Falchion said:

Haven't received my copy yet, but I'm eagerly awaiting the email. 

I'm in the same boat. It will be sent via email, right?

 

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Just now, Rushu42 said:

I'm in the same boat. It will be sent via email, right?

 

It should be! The bonus material hasn't updated like a pre-downloaded game or whatever, so it should be via email. 

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Just finished!

Okay, that was DOOOOOPE! Of all the projects Sanderson's been attached to, this definitely a contender for the darkest one (pun intended). There's optimism in the story, but given the perspective, it feels almost like anti-nihilism in a way. 

For a while I've said that Mistborn was Sanderson's response to the Wheel of Time, but after reading this, I think I might have spoken too soon (or maybe this is the Game of Thrones to The Wheel of Time's The Lord of the Rings...if that makes sense...). All of the talk of the Narrative was straight up Jordan, and how it's finished at the end is so fascinating. 

Paul was a cool character, although I do worry that his ascension to power, while terribly long for a graphic novel, would be too short for a television show (depending on the length of the first season). Nikka was a ride. I thought she was going to be

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the spirit of the previous Dark One locked away

but it turns out she was telling the truth about a lot of things. Paul and Nikki's father is hiding a lot of secrets as well (although I think they pretty much state the largest one). 

The princess (Feodora?) was an interesting character, but it's clear her journey is just beginning. 

The ending was awesome and I CANNOT WAIT for more books in this series. 

I have more to say, but it's too fresh right now. I'll come back after reading it a couple of times.

 

P.S. - Bring Me the Horizon's new song "Parasite Eve" goes GREAT with this story (it also goes great with the latest chapters of My Hero Academia). 

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1 hour ago, Use the Falchion said:

Just finished!

Okay, that was DOOOOOPE! Of all the projects Sanderson's been attached to, this definitely a contender for the darkest one (pun intended). There's optimism in the story, but given the perspective, it feels almost like anti-nihilism in a way. 

How self-contained is volume 1?

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2 minutes ago, Snorkel said:

How self-contained is volume 1?

It's pretty self contained - it has a story with a beginning and end, and a reasonably satisfying conclusion. It does end on a cliffhanger, though, and several plot threads are left unresolved.

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18 hours ago, Use the Falchion said:

Just finished!

Okay, that was DOOOOOPE! Of all the projects Sanderson's been attached to, this definitely a contender for the darkest one (pun intended). There's optimism in the story, but given the perspective, it feels almost like anti-nihilism in a way. 

For a while I've said that Mistborn was Sanderson's response to the Wheel of Time, but after reading this, I think I might have spoken too soon (or maybe this is the Game of Thrones to The Wheel of Time's The Lord of the Rings...if that makes sense...). All of the talk of the Narrative was straight up Jordan, and how it's finished at the end is so fascinating. 

The basic premise is also quite similar to the Sundering duology by Jacqueline Carey (and the word "sundering" is used several times in relation to the Narrative). Additionally, the Blackened Lands and its inhabitants reminded me of the Misery from Ed McDonald's Raven's Mark series.

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18 hours ago, Snorkel said:

How self-contained is volume 1?

It's interesting... while the book spans one complete self-contained story arc that ends with a very important that would be worthy of a full-novel Sanderlanche, it also very much feels like this is only the beginning of something much grander. Like a pilot episode of a TV show that already resolves a massive plot thread by itself if that makes sense.

Something a little more spoilery:

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I feel like this slightly diminishes the significance of said event in the grand scheme of things, though I think that's very much intentional. The people in this world thought this event was gonna be the big deal, but it turns out it's really only the beginning.

Anyway, I loved it and I'm left with so many questions. Can't wait for the community to take apart every last detail and unravel the secrets of this world (and plot).

Regarding someone's earlier comment that this is Brandon's darkest work yet:

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I mean, in a literal sense, yes, but I'm pretty sure that the direction this is going is that the Drull are ultimately the good guys, but their society (and the way they've been framed by the "light") happens to be built around a lot of elements or concepts that we traditionally associate with dark or evil.

 

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4 hours ago, Mender said:

Regarding someone's earlier comment that this is Brandon's darkest work yet:

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I did notice this and have read many stories/played more than a few games where the premise of "Dark Is Actually Good and Light/Holy Is Evil." But the fact that the story 

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in the end says "the Dark One wins rather than being exclusively misunderstood is what makes it dark (well, that and the Drull philosophy on life). 

I am a little afraid that the story is going to go in a direction we've seen and alluded to, but hey, Journey Before Destination. 

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17 hours ago, Mender said:

Regarding someone's earlier comment that this is Brandon's darkest work yet:

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I mean, in a literal sense, yes, but I'm pretty sure that the direction this is going is that the Drull are ultimately the good guys, but their society (and the way they've been framed by the "light") happens to be built around a lot of elements or concepts that we traditionally associate with dark or evil.

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It seems to me that it's going this way too, or more likely a two-sided story, but it's a little disappointing because it takes away from the premise of the story. I was expecting the Dark One to do everything that Voldemort would do, but maybe not as willingly. It could be that Brandon originally intended it this way but decided that it would be too hard to write it like that. I think this might also be part of the reason he switched it to a visual medium. It's easier to portray him as the Dark One despite his not doing anything particularly dark, in a comic book form.

Overall I really enjoyed it which is a relief because Brandon didn't actually write it. Though the preview was promising it was still impossible to know for sure until we got the whole thing.

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On 6/26/2020 at 7:24 PM, Use the Falchion said:

Paul was a cool character, although I do worry that his ascension to power, while terribly long for a graphic novel, would be too short for a television show (depending on the length of the first season). Nikka was a ride. I thought she was going to be.

I actually think it wouldn’t be too hard to write an entire season based on the first graphic novel. I felt like the story moved really quickly, enough so that it was a bit difficult at times for me to wrap my head around anything. For example,

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The assassination plot to usurp the king was hatched and carried out in something like two pages. Two pages! If you added more meat to it, it could have taken up much more of the story without feeling slow paced.

Personally, I think there are a lot of opportunities to expand on the lore and character motivation, which the graphic novel touched on, but didn’t dive into. So I’m not too concerned about a TV series as long as the effort is put in.

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Oh man, I wanna read this so baaaad :-O

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Man, I feel bad for saying this since it seems like everyone else here loved it but.....I hated it.

 

This is easily my least favorite Brandon Sanderson story. Maybe it was the comic book format (but I liked White Sand) but everything was so shallow and nothing made sense. There was no feeling of the puzzles falling into place perfectly as I expected with Brandon Sanderson books. I have a lot of questions but I don't think they will be answered and instead I get the strong impression that you just have to accept certain things which again is very atypical of a Sanderson story. True, this is just the first volume but I just feel so completely dissatisfied after finishing that story that I don't know if I will get the next one.  I have trouble explaining why exactly I really didn't like this book.

 

Sorry guys :( But maybe y'all will enjoy it more than me and I'm just the weird one here.

 

The only thing I liked about the story was:

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Nikki and how she came to be. Probably because that was the only part of the story that felt "Brandon Sandersony"

 

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I actually really liked it!  It left much more of a cliffhanger than most of Brandon's works, which was unnecessary for me since I'll buy the next edition, but I understand it for the medium.

I was surprised by my reaction to one scene.

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At the end when the cop busts Paul's head with the stock of his gun. It is hard to describe the shock it gave me.

Such police officers deserve to be held accountable for their actions.  I know the comic can't address it, but it really bothered me.

My favorite part was:

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When Paul is at the well, and saying that it was a conscious choice, and he wasn't going to make that choice as it would have later effects. Paul's morality impressed me.

 

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I really appreciated the conflict of connotation within the story. You have the golden borders around text as good, but the actual words are bloodthirsty. You have red as bad and you have the actual words be fairly good-not pure, but good. The black text bubbles at the end was cool as well. I like the whole “The dark one doesn’t kill, it steals” which I would say is Sandersony. 

On 7/12/2020 at 6:47 PM, shadowwisp said:

There was no feeling of the puzzles falling into place perfectly as I expected with Brandon Sanderson books.

I’d say this is fair. To do this, you need a looong book. Brandon dedicates four fifths of his book To setting up questions that need to be answered and one fifth to answer them. It’s more slow paced, and is much harder to do in a fast paced small graphic novel. I’d say that this story does not adhere to the Brandon Sanderson style. It’s an interesting new taste, and I happen to like it. I understand why it could be disliked, though.

I give this a 3/5 for worldbuilding. It’s okay, but not as engaging as any of the cosmere books.

the characterization is nice, but also not his best work. I’d give that a 3/5 as well. 
 

the plot had some nice surprises and I was definitely pulled further and further into the book, but no earth-shattering reveals. 4/5 for me.

I liked the art and style of the imagery within the novel. Brandon is experimenting, an I like that. I’ll give a 4/5 for artwork.

Overall, I’ll give this comic a 7/10. It’s a nice read, but not really something I’d recommend. I enjoyed reading it and am exited for the next installation!

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