Mr.stormblessed Posted June 22, 2020 Report Share Posted June 22, 2020 Could there be a third shard on scadrial? Because allomancy is of preservation and hemalurgy is of Ruin. Feruchemy is supposed to be a "mix". Could there be a hidden shard or at least a shard that was on scadrial for a short time? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbozb Posted June 22, 2020 Report Share Posted June 22, 2020 (edited) I'm pretty sure that Ruin and Preservation were the only two shards on Scadrial as of the information that we have now. Feruchemy is Ruin and Preservation in equal measure. Edited June 22, 2020 by nbozb grammar 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Quazzi Posted June 22, 2020 Report Share Posted June 22, 2020 I found this interesting too but nothing to indicate a third shard. Maybe because Ruin and Preservation created the planet together is why feruchemy exist being a even mix. That’s my head cannon 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara Posted June 22, 2020 Report Share Posted June 22, 2020 Location is sort of a tricky concept int he COsmere due to Spiritual Realm shenanigans. Have other Shards perhaps taken a look or visited Scadrial for a short time? It's likely. Did any of them "stay" long enough to Invest? I'd say no, because we get quite a lot of information on what's going on with Scadrial in the two series, and there's no indication that there was a third Shard involved up through Era 1. Era 2, on the other hand... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Harrycrapper Posted June 22, 2020 Report Share Posted June 22, 2020 When more than one Shard invests in a planet it seems to result in more magic systems than Shards. In Scadrial's case, Ruin and Preservation were two opposite shards equally invested in the planet(though not the humans, more Preservation in them) which seems to have created three magic systems. One entirely of Preservations, one entirely of Ruin, and one that's an equal mix of the two. Feruchemy allows one to Preserve attributes and then use them Ruinously. Spoilers for other book series: Spoiler Now, Scadrial is the simplest example of this. Sel and Roshar are the only other cannon Shardworlds with more than one Shard. They also have Shards that aren't exactly opposite in Intent and one or more are Shattered. We don't entirely know how those added variables affect this situation, though it's obvious on Sel that there are a half dozen magic systems that we know of, possibly more. But yea, more magic systems doesn't necessarily mean there's another Shard present for each one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honorless Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 Feruchemy is from both Preservation & Ruin Quote Questioner Allomancy is of Preservation, correct? Brandon Sanderson Yes... Questioner What are Feruchemy and Hemalurgy of? Brandon Sanderson Hemalurgy is definitely of Ruin. Questioner Is it of pure Ruin? Brandon Sanderson Yes. That's a very Ruin thing. And Feruchemy is more of a blend. Though… there is more philosophy to that and human construct—like the Allomantic table—than I think I’ve made clear before. Shadows of Self Chicago signing (Oct. 12, 2015) Quote Argent (paraphrased) Feruchemy is the "balance" between Ruin and Preservation. Would any combination of Shards create a "balance" magic, so to speak, or are only certain Shards compatible? Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased) Feruchemy ended up being a balance system, because of how polar Ruin and Preservation were. Any world with at least two Shards will result in a similar phenomenon. Argent (paraphrased) Like Roshar? Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased) Like Roshar. There is something like that going on there. Steelheart Chicago signing (Oct. 5, 2013) Quote Questioner With Allomancy is of Preservation, and you have Hemalurgy, which is of Ruin. Is Feruchemy a joint effort between the two? Or is it a third party? Brandon Sanderson Joint effort. FanX 2018 (Sept. 8, 2018) Scadrial only has the two Shards, though it has been visited by other Shards in the past Quote mender Was Scadrial visited by any other Shard before the events of Mistborn? If so, which one? Brandon Sanderson Yes. Several. General Signed Books 2018 (March 8, 2018) But only two Shards are Invested there, and only the two were present there for most of its history, including during the Final Empire Though there is Trell post-Catacendre... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.stormblessed Posted June 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 Glad I got that cleared up! Thanks! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aioria Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 On 22/6/2020 at 2:57 PM, Mr.stormblessed said: Could there be a third shard on scadrial? Because allomancy is of preservation and hemalurgy is of Ruin. Feruchemy is supposed to be a "mix". Could there be a hidden shard or at least a shard that was on scadrial for a short time? allomancy, hemalurgy and Feruchemy are of preservation, ruin, and Harmony... But what of the unknown red metal, the one that allows Paalm the use of other investiture and hides her from Sazed, that creates werewolf koloss and red eye immortals, and what of the "haze of red. All around, pressing in upon the world." "a miasma of dread and destruction" There is definitely a new shard in town 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koloss17 Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 4 hours ago, Aioria said: allomancy, hemalurgy and Feruchemy are of preservation, ruin, and Harmony... But what of the unknown red metal, the one that allows Paalm the use of other investiture and hides her from Sazed, that creates werewolf koloss and red eye immortals, and what of the "haze of red. All around, pressing in upon the world." "a miasma of dread and destruction" There is definitely a new shard in town Yes. The prevailing theories for trell is autonomy or odium, or An avatar of autonomy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustration Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 10 hours ago, Aioria said: allomancy, hemalurgy and Feruchemy are of preservation, ruin, and Harmony... But what of the unknown red metal, the one that allows Paalm the use of other investiture and hides her from Sazed, that creates werewolf koloss and red eye immortals, and what of the "haze of red. All around, pressing in upon the world." "a miasma of dread and destruction" There is definitely a new shard in town Feruchemy predates Harmony, Feruchemy is a mix of Ruin and Preservation. Now all are of Harmony. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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