BrightlordKelsier Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 Hello! I found myself on this forum a lot searching up questions I had after reading and decided it was finally time to make an account! I've read all of the Stormlight Archive and just recently got each book on Audible and am listening to them all before Rhythm of War comes out. I am a HUGE Adolin fan - not often do you see a character who has it all, but isn't conceited and isn't jealous as everyone around him starts to surpass him. I'm just finishing the first Mistborn trilogy...and wow I never thought I would find something better than The Stormlight Archive, but Mistborn may overtake it. So, I had a question on Squires. It's a question regarding your opinions on them? Does it take anything away from the Knights Radiant to you that now nearly all of Bridge 4 has the same abilities as Kaladin and a few have even bonded spren? Again, as a huge Adolin fan I always thought it was going to be unlikely he would become a Radiant, but if that moment ever did come I would lose it and probably shed some tears of joy. Now with squires it went from unlikely to inevitable (still have hope he is the first to revive a dead spren). The Stormlight Archive is nearly flawless for me, I just don't know if I can get behind a Knights Radiant losing that exclusiveness. What are your guys thoughts on Squires? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shard of Reading Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 First off, welcome to the shard! I love your name! Now, to answer your question I like the squires. I think that it is good that the knights radiant are a lot less exclusive. I like that it allows you to have powers but not necessarily with a spern. Anyway I have never put much thought into it. Also what is your favorite book, character and magic system? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 (edited) Welcome! 2 hours ago, BrightlordKelsier said: has the same abilities as Kaladin and a few have even bonded spren Not really. Firstly their powers are much weaker. Secondly I bridge four has done a lot of work to be where they are. Finally we know their used to be thousands of radiants. Pegging the total number of radiants at around 10 seems silly. Edited May 27, 2020 by Karger 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightlordKelsier Posted May 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 23 minutes ago, Shard of Reading said: First off, welcome to the shard! I love your name! Now, to answer your question I like the squires. I think that it is good that the knights radiant are a lot less exclusive. I like that it allows you to have powers but not necessarily with a spern. Anyway I have never put much thought into it. Also what is your favorite book, character and magic system? Thank you! Favorite book is The Way of Kings - just love the Bridge Runs and it's what I talk about when trying to get my friends to dive into the Stormlight Archive. Also the ending of the book was just incredible. Favorite magic system is the use of Allomancy in Mistborn. The battles between two mistborn are just incredible. How about you? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightlordKelsier Posted May 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 19 minutes ago, Karger said: Welcome! Not really. Firstly their powers are much weaker. Secondly I bridge four has done a lot of work to be where they are. Finally we know their used to be thousands of radiants. Begging the total number of radiants at around 10 seems silly. Didn't realize that there used to be thousands of Radiants! I guess there only being 10 would be somewhat strange, just hoping the squires maybe can't swear all the ideals, or aren't as strong, or even need to be near the "main" Radiant in order to have these abilities. I know that's what the rumors suggest, hoping that's true! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shard of Reading Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 I like Oathbringer. I love all of the stormlight archive books but I feel like Oathbringer did an amazing job of building on what has already happened. I really like the knights radiant, Ferchumisy (I can't remember how to spell it.) and allomancy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mist Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 Welcome! Until the squires have bonded spren, they need to be near the knight to have powers. What's your favorite color? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoWibble Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Shard of Reading said: and magic system? aww, you stole my question... Ahem Welcome to the Shard! Revelant WoB for the squires question: Quote Argent There is a person on the forums who noticed that Shallan has this awesome Memory thing going on, Jasnah seems to have a really powerful, kind of, geolocation thing going on, Kaladin is a really good fighter - are those just their traits, or is there something supernatural going on? Brandon Sanderson There is something supernatural going on. Each Order... Well, how about this. If you look at the scholar interpretations, there are some scholars who think that these things are not supernatural, in the past, and some who said they definitely are. But many, if you look, many Lightweavers had powerful mnemonic abilities. Argent So it's definitely tied to the Orders? Brandon Sanderson It's tied to the Orders. Now, I am not going to say that you've got them all 100% correct, but each Order, there are things that come with Order, things that do not add up from simple the "you get this power plus this power," there is something else going on. And I would say that for Windrunners, watch the number of squires and the power of the squires... is abnormal for the Windrunners. Argent And each Order's squires are somehow different from the other Orders'? Brandon Sanderson Yeeeaaaah... some Orders don't have them, [that] is the difference. Argent But some have more? Brandon Sanderson Yeah. Words of Radiance Chicago signing (March 22, 2014) Have you read other cosmere books? If not, I recommend Elantris and Mistborn Era 2 highly (for starters ) 1 hour ago, BrightlordKelsier said: a few have even bonded spren? After they bond spren, I don't think that they are referred to as Squires anymore. so the capping at 10 that Karger refuted has already been proven to be false Edited May 27, 2020 by GoWibble 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantus Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 Welcome to the Shard! I like to think of Squires as a tactical boon to their Radiant, rather than taking away from their exclusivity. The squires are entirely reliant on a Radiant being nearby to keep their Windrunner powers, so they are not perfect replacements for a full Windrunner. They also do not get blades or plate, so they will always have that vulnerability. It's also worth noting that Windrunners are a little bit of a special case with squires in that their unique Surge resonance manifests as them gaining significantly more squires than the average order. So we wont be seeing nearly as many say, Lightweaver Squires running around, and we've been told there are some Orders that dont gain squires at all. Windrunners will have an advantage over the others in terms of shear number of Surgebinders they can bring to bear, but it will always be tied to a framework of full Radiant leadership. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoWibble Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Quantus said: They also do not get blades or plate Somehow the Radiants get plate... I want to have Szeth in Plate that he can dismiss. that sounds awesome. that and using division Edited May 27, 2020 by GoWibble "they" was confusing 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 hour ago, BrightlordKelsier said: Didn't realize that there used to be thousands of Radiants! I guess there only being 10 would be somewhat strange, just hoping the squires maybe can't swear all the ideals, or aren't as strong, or even need to be near the "main" Radiant in order to have these abilities. I know that's what the rumors suggest, hoping that's true! Squires are not as strong and don't get blades or plate. The strength difference is less noticeable with bridge four because Windrunner squires are stronger then most but Nale for example leaves the squires behind on a mission because they leak stormlight too much. Also Windrunners get more squires then normal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honorless Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 Welp, I don't think Kelsier would've liked being called that, @BrightlordKelsier But eh, Vin's roast applies Welcome to the Shard 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AonEne Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 Welcome to the Shard! Adolin is definitely great. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weltall Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 5 hours ago, GoWibble said: Somehow they get plate... Squires don't get Plate and full Radiants don't get it until they've sworn a few of their Ideals. We know for certain that Windrunners don't get it until their Fourth Ideal but it might be different for other orders. That still requires a Nahel Bond though, so squires need not apply. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoWibble Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 18 minutes ago, Weltall said: Squires don't get Plate and full Radiants don't get it until they've sworn a few of their Ideals. We know for certain that Windrunners don't get it until their Fourth Ideal but it might be different for other orders. That still requires a Nahel Bond though, so squires need not apply. Oops. I didn't clarify when I said they... I was talking about the full Radiants there 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightlordKelsier Posted May 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 8 hours ago, GoWibble said: aww, you stole my question... Ahem Welcome to the Shard! Revelant WoB for the squires question: Have you read other cosmere books? If not, I recommend Elantris and Mistborn Era 2 highly (for starters ) After they bond spren, I don't think that they are referred to as Squires anymore. so the capping at 10 that Karger refuted has already been proven to be false Almost done with the first Mistborn trilogy, about halfway through Hero of Ages (love this trilogy) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoWibble Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 10 hours ago, BrightlordKelsier said: Almost done with the first Mistborn trilogy, about halfway through Hero of Ages (love this trilogy) As much as I love MB era 1, era 2 is so much better. the second series is 300 years later and *spoiler* Vin and Elend aren't in it, but you'll learn to love Wax and Wayne in Alloy of Law, Shadows of Self, and Bands of Morning 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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