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AonNae

Location Based Investiture

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It is pretty common knowledge that to access the Dor through Aons, you have to be close to the city Elantris. But what about the other forms of Investiture on Sel? Are Forgery, ChayShan, and Dakhor location based as well? Like if you are JinDo, would you have to be close to the nation JinDo to actually practice ChayShan? 

Also, why is AonDor location based? Could it be that Elantris is where the center of the Dor is located in the Cognitive Realm?

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RAFO has a good vidio on sel.  I have it below with a WoB.

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Yourigath

Can you access the Dor while on other planets? Can you, I don't know, "tell the Dor" that you are on Roshar using an Aon that doesn't have the base on the map of Sel but in the world of Roshar and use Elantrian magic there? An Aon with an spiral pattern with the right lines, dots, etc... that tells the Dor "I'm here. This is Roshar. And I need your power to do X"

Brandon Sanderson

Great question, and one integral to the workings of cosmere Magic! No, you cannot currently access the Dor anywhere else. The Dor is a big part of why magic on Sel is distinctive.

Yourigath

If an Elantrian worldhops does it returns to a normal human pre-Shaod state? If this Elantrian goes back to Sel it recovers his Elantrian powers or he keeps his pre-Shaod form?

Brandon Sanderson

An Elantrian away from Sel would still be an Elantrian--but many of the visible signs would fade away, much like something florescent that stops glowing when moved away from a Black Light.

/r/books AMA 2015 (May 22, 2015)

 

 

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That is because the Shards of Sel, Devotion and Dominion, were killed by Odium and their power locked in the Cognitive Realm as the Dor. The Spiritual Realm doesn't care about distance but the Cognitive Realm sort of does. This results in the magics of Sel being region-locked. On Sel, different nations have different magics. The further a magic user goes from their homeland, the weaker the magic becomes.

In the case of AonDor users, the city of Elantris acts as a booster to their power.

The other magics of Sel also suffer this weakness. The Dakhor monks are also boosting themselves in some manner.

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Do the monks of Dakhor and Forging suffer from the same weakness of distance as the Elantrian magic?

Brandon Sanderson

Do the monks of Dakhor and Forging suffer from the same [weakness of] distance as the Elantrian magic? Yes they do. It's a little less pronounced in the monks because of certain things they are doing. It is very pronounced for Forging.

Shadows of Self Chicago signing (Oct. 12, 2015)

All the other manifestations of Investiture on Sel: Forging, Bloodsealing, ChayShan, Hrovell potion making (the character Forton from Elantris gives a potion to Hrathen that made him & Sarene look like Elantrians) also get weaker away from their homeland.

Recall that Aon Aon was in the shape of Arelon and Shai commented that the base Forgery symbol resembles the shape of MaiPon.

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