Chiberty Posted April 15, 2020 Report Share Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) https://repl.it/@ChickenLiberty/KRQuiz This is just my own attempt at making a quiz like this. Since it's just a python program, I can easily edit it if new books change our understanding of the Orders. If you don't think you're result is accurate, tell me, and I'll alter the quiz if it appears certain Orders are consistently inaccurate. The "certainty" thing is somewhat arbitrary; I just fit the results to some curve that represents the other data to an extent. My descriptions of the orders aren't very good, but oh well. Edited April 15, 2020 by ChickenLiberty 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcaroRibeiro Posted April 15, 2020 Report Share Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) Oh, are you learning Python? That's nice, It was my first language Edit: This was my result, as I expected 91.6 % certainty for Elsecaller or Willshaper Elsecallers are the seventh order of the Knights Radiant, and they have a focus on doing what is logical. They are known to be very wise, and they try to consider all of their options. Willshapers are the eighth order of the Knights Radiant, and they have a focus on experiencing new things. They are known to be very adventurous, and they seek to have an impact on the world. Edited April 15, 2020 by IcaroRibeiro 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Invocation Posted April 15, 2020 Report Share Posted April 15, 2020 91.8 Truthwatcher, which is about what I expected. That's my favorite order, so I have no issue with that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afractalcontinent Posted April 15, 2020 Report Share Posted April 15, 2020 89.5% chance of Edgedancer or Lightweaver. Pretty much what I was thinking . Good job! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsecaller_17.5 Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 The formatting is rough, do I need to do it on a computer? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanderFan69 Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 75.8% lightweaver. The results seem pretty balanced so far, looks like a good test! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aluminum Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 90% Edgedancer. Nice program. Seems like you got decent consistency without having it drag on forever like some online quizzes. Enjoyed the last question with all the in-world quotes 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djerf Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 I got 85.7% lightweaver which I'd argue is about as much wrong it gets. However these tests do have a significant margin of error seeing as I don't think I agreed more than 10% with any question. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiberty Posted April 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Elsecaller_17.5 said: The formatting is rough, do I need to do it on a computer? I've noticed that. It doesn't need to be done on a computer, but sometimes mobile will type something twice. @Djerf, if you have in suggestions (different questions, different answers, etc.), feel free to share, as it's not very hard for me to change the test. I set it up in a way where I can just add an extra answer or question without any hassle. Edited April 16, 2020 by ChickenLiberty 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gderu Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 I got edgedancer, which I did not expect. There were a lot of questions about feelings and such, and how important they are. I think that your program interpreted my answers as me being an edgedancer because of that. Also, if you are learning Python right now, maybe as a second project try to make this with some GUI. I like the pygame library, it's quite simple and you can make some pretty fun things in it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiberty Posted April 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 11 minutes ago, Gderu said: I got edgedancer, which I did not expect. There were a lot of questions about feelings and such, and how important they are. I think that your program interpreted my answers as me being an edgedancer because of that. Yeah, I ran some analysis on the possible results, and the quiz does have a slight bias to choose Edgedancer. I was aware of this, and if it seems to be a recurring issue, I can apply a weight to each of the Orders in an attempt to counteract this, unless you have any suggestions of questions that help discern between Edgedancers and the others. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciridae Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) Very nice quiz, got over 90% Willshaper which I’m very happy with. I’m not sure how difficult it would be to do this, but is there a way to see to what degree you match the other orders? Edited April 16, 2020 by Ciridae 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiberty Posted April 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Ciridae said: Very nice quiz, got over 90% Willshaper which I’m very happy with. I’m not sure how difficult it would be to do this, but is there a way to see to what degree you match the other orders? I could make it do this, but there are certain things that would make it strange; it is possible to get a negative score on an Order. When I take the quiz, I get about 98% certainty for Skybreaker, but only about 46% of the points I get are Skybreaker points. Negative 13% are Lightweaver points. Even if you are a very Willshaper-oriented person, chances are that less than 50% of your points are what I assigned to Willshapers. In your case, scoring a 90% certainty for Willshaper doesn't mean that you chose 90% Willshaper answers; it means that if I saw 10 people that gave your answer choices, I'd expect 9 of them to be Willshaper-type people. It's similar, but it was a way that I was trying to make the way I assigned points to certain answers have less effect on the guess. It makes it so that even if I have a faulty view on the Order you'd be a part of, the quiz is still likely to guess that Order, as long as I have an accurate view on most of the Orders. (Although it has been pointed out above that Edgedancer in particular is more likely to be guessed) In summary, it wouldn't be difficult to do, but it would not be what you expect. If you want, type "kr" after you take the quiz, and you'll see what I'm talking about. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsecaller_17.5 Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 (edited) General Notes: I really liked the first 3 "how do you interpret this" questions. Good job! The jewelry one needs more option. I would have gone "the more expensive the harder I try to return it." I very much agree with the results. 91.2% Elsecaller. Here's how it played out. 1. How should this be interpreted? "Life before death." Live your life to its fullest 2. How should this be interpreted? "Strength before weakness." Your strengths matter more than your weaknesses 3. How should this be interpreted? "Journey before destination." We must continually search for what is right 4. How much do you want to change the world? I want it to be completely changed for the better 5. Which one of these is better to focus on Trying to grow and learn 6. You hear someone spreading hurtful information about a friend of yours. You... Try to find out how true the information is 7. You see a piece of jewelry on the ground, and nobody else is around. You... Sell it 8. Which would be worse to lose? Credibility 9. Which is more important? Consistensy 10. Which quote fits you the best? To lack feeling is to be dead, but to act on every feeling is to be a child. Suggestions: More of the situation questions, maybe more of the quote ones too. I'll edit with specific suggestions. Edit: The pokemon mystery dungeon "what kind of pokemon are you?" are a goldmine if your ok with sillier questions. Edit 2: Dang this post is getting long. I pulled out the questions that will translate to SA best. I don't know how the quiz is set up, but I think points to different natures can pretty easily be changed to orders. Question 1 1. Edgedancer, Windrunner 2. Truthwatcher, Elsecaller 3. Willshaper Question 2 1. Edgedancer, Willshaper 2. Elsecaller, Stoneward 3. Bondsmith, Truthwatcher Question 3 I am so passionately the second answer I don't feel qualified to divide this into orders. Also "the spanreed is flashing!" Question 4 1. Truthwatcher, Lightweaver 2. Windrunner, Stoneward 3. Dustbringer Question 5 1. Windrunner, Stonewards, Elsecaller, Bondsmiths 2. Lightweaver, Willshapers, Edgedancers 3. ??? Question 6 1. Lightweaver 2.Bondsmith, Stoneward, Windrunner, Skybreaker3. Elsecaller, Edgedancer Question 7 1. Elsecaller, Dustbringer, Skybreaker 2. Bondsmith, Stoneward, Windrunner 3. Lightweaver, Truthwatcher, Willshaper Question 8 1. Bondsmith, Elsecaller, Skybreaker2. Lightweaver 3. Windrunner 4. Willshaper Question 9 1. Bondsmith 2. Dustbringer 3. Edgedancer Question 10 1. Windrunner, Bondsmith 2. Dustbinger, Lightweaver Question 11 1. Bondsmith, Windrunner, Stoneward, Edgedancer 2. Lightweaver, Elsecaller, Dustbringer Question 12 1. Bondsmith, Skybreaker 2. Willshaper Question 13 Again passionately a yes, someone else divide it. Question 14 1. Windrunner, Elsecaller 2. Edgedancer, Truthwatcher Question 15 1. Bondsmith, Stoneward, Elsecaller 2.Edgedancer, Lightweaver Question 17 Same old, same old, someone else do it Question 18 1. Edgedancer, Lightweaver 2. Stoneward, Willshsaper 3. Elsecaller Question 19 1. Windrunner, Skybreaker, Edgedancer, Dustbringer 2. ??? 3. Elsecaller, Lightweaver Question 20 1. Willshaper, Dustbringer 2. Elsecaller, Stoneward, Skybreaker 3.Bondsmith, Windrunner Edgedancer Question 21 1. Elsecaller, Bondsmith, Skybreaker 2. Windrunner, Lightweaver 3. Dustbringer Question 22 1. Edgedancer, Lightweaver, Willshaper 2. Elsecaller, Bondsmith 3. ??? Question 23 In hindsight not a great Radiant question Question 24 1. Windrunner, Edgedancer, Skybreaker, Bondsmith 2. ??? 3. Elsecaller 4. ??? Edited April 17, 2020 by Elsecaller_17.5 Yes, I know its excessive but I got nothing better to do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambram Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 87.6 % certainty for Willshaper Willshapers are the eighth order of the Knights Radiant, and they have a focus on experiencing new things. They are known to be very adventurous, and they seek to have an impact on the world. Not exactly the one I thought I might get. However, I can see how it does fit me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honorless Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 86.9% certainty for Willshapers I can see why from the perspective of the questions asked and options presented 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halyo_Alex Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 77.3% certainty for Bondsmith, 77.5% Experimental Correction certainty for Bondsmith. Yeah, that sounds right to me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightwing8888 Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 This is great, well done! I got Lightweaver, which is consistent with other tests I've taken. This was very straightforward and well put together. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambram Posted April 19, 2020 Report Share Posted April 19, 2020 12 hours ago, Vambram said: 87.6 % certainty for Willshaper Willshapers are the eighth order of the Knights Radiant, and they have a focus on experiencing new things. They are known to be very adventurous, and they seek to have an impact on the world. Not exactly the one I thought I might get. However, I can see how it does fit me. I answered 3 questions a little differently this time. I was not half asleep now as I was about 12 hours ago. I truly do feel like this result fits me better. I believe that I'm a lot more like a Windrunner than I am a Willshaper. 81.8 % certainty for Windrunner Windrunners are the first order of the Knights Radiant, and they have a focus on protecting others. They are known to be strong leaders, and they strive to be honorable in all they do. EXPERIMENTAL (corrective weighting applied): 83.0 % certainty for Windrunner 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted April 19, 2020 Report Share Posted April 19, 2020 Willshaper. Not consistent with other tests but I find those lacking as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halyo_Alex Posted April 19, 2020 Report Share Posted April 19, 2020 I got 75.3% Bondsmith, and 75.5% Bondsmith with the experimental corrective weighting. Seems pretty consistent with the other quizzes I've taken, nicely done 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Happy Obligator Posted April 19, 2020 Report Share Posted April 19, 2020 I got Edgedancer. I wasn't exactly expecting that, but while thinking about it I can see how it fits me a lot. Very good quiz! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iarwainiel I Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 Nice work @ChickenLiberty ! I got Elsecaller, which I've gotten before on some quizzes. It's interesting to me because it's not what I would have predicted - my values and hopes for people align much better with Bondsmith. I guess one never knows... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiberty Posted April 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2020 (edited) @Elsecaller_17.5, thanks for all the suggestions. As you mentioned about the jewelry question, scenario questions are often the most lacking in accurate answer choices. Having seen a bunch of personality quizzes, I was wary of that while I was making this quiz, but I wanted to include a couple like that for the variety. I tried to pick scenario questions that left few options available, but, as you pointed out, the most common answer to those types of questions is that "it depends." Sadly, the same problem will come up with those questions that you suggested. I would add a "depends" answer choice, but so many people would choose it that it wouldn't give any meaningful information. If you have any ideas on how to reword the jewelry question in a way that would remove the need for a "depends" option, please share. I will definitely consider adding more quote questions. Do you have any quotes in mind that each apply to a couple of Orders? Also, as a general note, does anyone have any suggestions for questions that would be good for distinguishing Edgdancers from non-Edgedancers? I had found a 3% bias to Edgedancers in the quiz, but the poll above shows over a 10% bias when people are added to the equation (since ideally, each order would get about 10% of people, but Edgedancer, right now, has over 20% of the responses in the poll). Of course, a bias is expected, but a previous "which order would you be in" thread indicates that the bias should be more towards Elsecallers. Edited April 22, 2020 by ChickenLiberty 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djerf Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 I redid the quiz with a different mindset and this time I got 81% for egdedancer or elsecaller, corrective value gave me 95% for those and windrunner or truthwatcher. One way to refine the quiz I think is to give us branching options. For example I take the jewelry, but why? or is there scenarios where I wouldn't? And the first oath. in many ways the lines inform each other, the first line is a statement and the second line can be a statement while also defining first line and the last line defines both line one and two while also working as a statement. Life before death, strength before weakness becomes rather sinister without journey before destination. Kaladin or Teft, I think it is, muses on this in the first book where he quotes the oath one line at a time and wonder what they mean and how they doesn't mean anything, 'of course life comes before death'. Maybe you can end the quiz with some obvious questions like what role would you want to fulfill on the battlefield, give them some wheight and make the option to factor them in or not. This works both in world and for us, szeth got to choose his order, sort of, and we all have different views of each order and how we would fit in. In the end I don't know much about quizzes, and we are not aiming for scientific precision so when in doubt just go for whatever options is more fun. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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